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post Jan 16, 2004 - 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (schmoko @ Dec 12, 2003 - 6:13 AM)
The reason they are not cheap is because it costs thousands of dollars to produce such a kit
you are paying for the work and tooling involved

It's just like for example when you buy a blitz exaust which woul cost over $1000 (in the uk anyway not sure about US)
you think that it's stupidly overpriced, surley a bit of steel does not cost that more than $50 trade and labour not more than another $50
you would probably be right....

but why you pay so much is because of the cost of superior design that went to producing the prototype which costs thousands and then the thousands spent on the tooling and machines to produce that prototype so that more will be able to be made for the retail market etc etc..

with these lights for axample the cast alloy block of the prototype which the special plastic is moulded on that just by itself cost in the reigon of $4000
all in all imagine investing approx $30,000 to produce these lights and the risk you take for your business to produce this kit hoping that you sell enough to just break even before you even make a profit...
and you will understand why some aftermarket items cost so much money
aside for paying for the quality of the item and the materials to make it
you have to take into consideration the amount of research, time , labour etc.. involved to manufacture a retail item never done before.

another one, why are veilside kits so much more than say a cheap copy of exactley the same kit which retail's at a quater of the price of the veilside!!!
fibreglass which is stupidley cheap and moulds of fibreglasss cost peanuts
arn't they making a huge mark-up compared to other copy kits???
No because they were the first to produce them and they spent $$$$$$ developing, designing, making sure it fits perfectley etc... and they have to recoup that cost which reflects in the price of the retail kit
whereas copy company just buy a kit where all the work has allready been done
and take a mould of it and pour in some cheap fibreglass and voila.. they have a the same kit at a fraction of the cost...

Comprende people....

maybe now you understand a little about the price of these lights.... smile.gif

LOL...you guys rollin in the dough yet? doesnt seem like your gettin many customers. anywayz i bought my JDM tails for 250 dollars...and you're selling your tails for 400+ dollars? I coulda almost bought TWO pairs of JDM tails for the cost of ONE of ur tails. No wonder why nobodys buyin those... I told you that you that more and more people would buy em if you reduced the price and you'd make more of a profit but you didnt listen to me. you learn by your mistakes i guess

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post Jan 16, 2004 - 11:36 AM
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ur tai lights are too expensive. ppl can purchase JDM tails for cheaper.

do u make the steal gauges too?? how much are they??
are they reverse glow??

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post Jan 16, 2004 - 11:41 AM
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I don't think they are ugly, I like them. But they are too expensive, much better things you can do with 400$ + shipping? than buy those.
post Jan 16, 2004 - 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Jason @ Jan 16, 2004 - 12:41 PM)
I don't think they are ugly, I like them. But they are too expensive, much better things you can do with 400$ + shipping? than buy those.

werd. if u lower the price more poeple will buy. and will make money.... $400 um thats my intercooler right there. not sum lights? but hey it happens.


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post Jan 17, 2004 - 2:38 AM
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Personally I think JDM tails s**k a$$ compared to these. No matter how you look at it JDM is stock just not USDM. These are unique.


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post Jan 17, 2004 - 3:11 PM
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Where can I get the gauge cluster?
post Jan 17, 2004 - 4:03 PM
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OK OK OK. now there has been a lot of contraversy over JDM vs. The Afterburners. I think in realism the afterburners have more of a Euro look to them where as JDM are just Japenese looking. I forked over the cash for the Afterburners so i will post a pic as soon as ther are installed. I have a Black Celi. So you will be able to tell as soon as they are on!!! Thanks,
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post Jan 17, 2004 - 6:47 PM
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QUOTE (schmoko @ Dec 10, 2003 - 2:53 AM)
The kits are finished please check the link for more pics and order form etc..

http://www.quadconversions.com/Celica/celi...urner_forum.htm

These are just some of the lense options available using the clear pyrotech lenses
the other type of lenses which are in the old link pics are also still available (and in orange aswell)

these pics are using my new LED stop/tail bulbs and silvertech indicator bulb

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hey man, whered you get those gauges? are they customs from speedhut.com?
post Jan 17, 2004 - 8:03 PM
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I'm wondering the same thing. Those are phat


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post Jan 18, 2004 - 6:04 AM
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the dials are by www.skewer.co.uk

in brushed aluminum with white digits that light up blue
and holographig cleica and GT logo's
the surrounded i painted myself with chrome effect paint

BTW. shogun kid as i said before I am NOT selling them, it is NOT my company

and what do you know how well they are selling didn't know you worked for quad conversions

hope it makes you feel better now that you have had your gloat and made sure everyone is aware of your distain for them

we got the message before you prefere JDM's thats fine

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY THESE

but you dont have to try to pursuade everyone else not to buy them...



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post Jan 18, 2004 - 6:13 AM
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QUOTE (schmoko @ Jan 18, 2004 - 4:04 AM)
hope it makes you feel better now that you have had your gloat and made sure everyone is aware of your distain for them

we got the message before you prefere JDM's thats fine

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY THESE

but you dont have to try to pursuade everyone else not to buy them...

Eliet, exactly what i said in the post i put on the Backfire lights thread.

Glad to know they're selling well in the Uk though Eliet.. lets see the response from Shogunkid when I post that the gearknobs are ready.

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post Jan 18, 2004 - 8:02 AM
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Like I said earlier I don't like JDM tails so I am going fork over the cash for some these. JDM tails are a dime a dozen, it seems that everyone on this site either has them or getting them. these lights will definately not cheap but I think its well worth it to be unique and might I say just bas ass. I know saying JDM tail stink is considered treason in the celica world but really the whole point of customizing a car is to stand out from the crowd am I right, yes I think I am and JDM tail just look stock to me and don't give me this bull about they look better at night well I have seen them at night and there isn't any differance.

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post Jan 18, 2004 - 10:04 AM
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im also willing to fork over the cash for these sweet lights....what is the final price ?
post Jan 18, 2004 - 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (BenMMellor @ Jan 18, 2004 - 11:13 AM)

Eliet, exactly what i said in the post i put on the Backfire lights thread.

Glad to know they're selling well in the Uk though Eliet.. lets see the response from Shogunkid when I post that the gearknobs are ready.

cheers Ben

just read that thread now

what they seem to forget is .....thats life

i mean when we want a kit or induction kit thats only available in the US we have to fork out a fortune in shipping etc... twice what the yanks pay for it
and its the same anywhere if you want to import something from abroad
depending on the value of your currency compared to that of where your buying from will greatly affect the price

No doubt there will be a big moan about the gearknobs aswell
even though they look f****n ace
post Jan 18, 2004 - 8:09 PM
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Would these fit on a couple/convert? :/ wish there was more info on the page..


Err, is it legal to get clear breaklights here in the US?
post Jan 18, 2004 - 9:35 PM
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JDM tails stink! There i said it....i really could do with out them. I love the look of my stock lights more then the JDMs. Actually I have nothing against them but nothing for them either! I guess i should just shut up lol. PeAcE
post Jan 18, 2004 - 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (initialdrift55 @ Jan 18, 2004 - 8:04 AM)
im also willing to fork over the cash for these sweet lights....what is the final price ?

400+ dollars with shipping


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post Jan 19, 2004 - 12:10 PM
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kool pricey but what else do you expect to pay from a full fledges custom piece. Do you know how much the shipping will be for 33165?
im still willing
post Jan 21, 2004 - 6:36 PM
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the tails are just too expensive. persoanlly i think the tails are ugly. they look like wannabe supra taillights. i dunno y sum ppl would want to buy them but if people liek them then its their business.

the thing i have to say is more sell requires lowering the price. $400, i rather buy performance parts
post Jan 22, 2004 - 11:13 PM
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Like I said earlier I don't like JDM tails so I am going fork over the cash for some these. JDM tails are a dime a dozen, it seems that everyone on this site either has them or getting them. these lights will definately not cheap but I think its well worth it to be unique and might I say just bas ass. I know saying JDM tail stink is considered treason in the celica world but really the whole point of customizing a car is to stand out from the crowd am I right, yes I think I am and JDM tail just look stock to me and don't give me this bull about they look better at night well I have seen them at night and there isn't any differance.


I don't know about bad ass. Maybe if you consider a piece of plastic with some lenses in it, that's a knock off inbred of a supra and skylines lights bad ass. I would have thought they could put a little more original design into them but hey. Also a little sceptical about them spending $30k on development.

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