new question, cranking but won't start, and a plug and something e, HELPPPPPPPP |
new question, cranking but won't start, and a plug and something e, HELPPPPPPPP |
Jan 18, 2011 - 4:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
okay, as some of you may know i swapped my 94 engine into my 97 st with only minimal changes as switching over all
the accessories and intake. and now that i'm wiring it all back together and running all the hoses and vaccume lines, i noticed some of the places where hoses should be ran there are some caps on the intake? i don't know if i should take them off and run hoses or leave them on? one is on the top of the intake, and the other is on the bottom.... if it helps the 97 was a standard, and the 94 was an auto.... also, does anyone have some close of pictures of where all the hoses/vac lines go? i know i was told to just look at the diagram on the firewall, but that can be confusing at times , and it doesn't have all of the hoses... also there is one other thing i'm curious of, over by the power steering pump on the bottom passenger side, there is a long hose/tube that comes from the driver side and has an open hole/connecter on the end, kind of looks like the same thing as the shifting cable ends..... but i don't know where it goes either... i can try and get pictures up later, but i still cant find my camera... so some pictures of how its all supposed to be ran would be very much appreciated.. thanks guys This post has been edited by NOVAKx17: Jan 21, 2011 - 9:34 PM -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 18, 2011 - 5:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
who need vac lines? just cap them all off haha
just kidding. don't do that. but i'll answer one of your questions, the auto to manual doesn't make a difference because it's the engine and not the tranny |
Jan 18, 2011 - 5:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
i was thinking the only difference might of been one had something to do with cruise control maybe?
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 18, 2011 - 5:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '10 From MA Currently Offline Reputation: 37 (100%) |
I wouldn't think so cause with the 5s, i took the cruise off a 97 celica, both auto, but the manual 94 i have, the cruise looks the same.
That's the 5s though, the 7a could be setup different but the cruise control shouldn't affect the vac lines |
Jan 18, 2011 - 5:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
hmmm ... not sure but i would like to get this figured out today,
i got everything put back together and oiled up, only thing left to do is finish the vacume lines/hoses and put in antifreeze and fire it up! -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 18, 2011 - 6:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '09 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i can go snap a pic if you still need it
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Jan 18, 2011 - 6:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
that would be awesome if you don't mind.....
if you could take some close up ones that would be great! mainly the ones on the driver side, and the ones on the back of the intake! help is much apreciated! -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 18, 2011 - 6:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '09 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Can't get a good photo right now of driver's side its too dark.
but maybe this will help |
Jan 18, 2011 - 6:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
thanks... yours is a little more clear than mine, but its still kind of hard for me to figure out by reading that, if anyone can help, i'd like to see the actual vaccume lines and where they go if anyone has some free time....
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 18, 2011 - 6:43 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '09 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
start with the items on the picture that aren't the manifold and see what's missing...that sticker shows the lines and has the external engine parts shown in the location they are in the engine bay...if u start tracing the ones u already have hooked up ull figure it out in no time.
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Jan 19, 2011 - 10:10 AM |
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thanks... yours is a little more clear than mine, but its still kind of hard for me to figure out by reading that, if anyone can help, i'd like to see the actual vaccume lines and where they go if anyone has some free time.... the diagram makes it pretty simple, dude, just trace each line. the ones that are essesial for the motor to run right are the air control vavle, map sensor, pressure regulator, throttle opener, and idle up valve (if you have AC.) you can block off the others if you have a 94-96, and bridge the wires going to the egr temp sensor. 97+ may throw a code if you bridge it, im not sure. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jan 19, 2011 - 10:16 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
wow, i'm dumb... is that little bar in the back on the top of the diagram the bar thats on the back of the intake?
if so, i can't believe i was having so many problems with this... wow. This post has been edited by NOVAKx17: Jan 19, 2011 - 10:17 AM -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 19, 2011 - 5:31 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
the one thats labeled "pipe" in the upper right of the diagram? if so, yes, that is the air bypass pipe that attaches to the back of the intake manifold.
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Jan 21, 2011 - 10:45 AM |
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Okay, thanks manny...
GOOD NEWS. i have all the vaccume lines ran right, and my engine is now turning over but not firing. .. the only things i don't have hooked up are these and i need your help in knowing what they are.... any ideas? this wire is over by the battery, (2 pictures of it.) and this thing is all the way over and down by the power steering pump? where does it go? also, any suggestions as to why its turning over but not starting? -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 21, 2011 - 10:48 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
the last pic, of the banjo fitting looks like the power steering pump hardline.
sorry, not too familiar with the 7a.. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jan 21, 2011 - 10:50 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
ok, so it goes to the power steering pump then?
k i'll get that taken care of.. but it is a sigh of relief that the car is now strongly turning over and wanting to fire! -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 21, 2011 - 11:32 AM |
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that connector looks like coil power.. ya might wanna plug that in on the dizzy.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
Jan 21, 2011 - 7:21 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
no, it doesn't plug into the dizzy, there is one already plugged into the dizzy.
uhm. so i found out i'm not getting any spark to the cylinders though? -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
Jan 22, 2011 - 8:15 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
no, it doesn't plug into the dizzy, there is one already plugged into the dizzy. uhm. so i found out i'm not getting any spark to the cylinders though? there should be 2 plugs on your distributor. one for the distributor itself, the other for the coil thats inside the distributor. thats why you dont have spark. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jan 22, 2011 - 10:16 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
really? i looked on the dizzy after he said that , and i didn't see another place for anything to be plugged in..... where is it located on the dizzy compared to the first one.
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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