Toyota FT-86, Uh-oh... Options

[njccmd2002]

ive lost all hope now...

Toyota is not interested in sports cars. Period.

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The boxer engine is great and all but I just prefer everything Toyota.

[richee3]

Problem: Toyota wants to build a RWD, lightweight, affordable. sports car, then water it down so that it gets good gas mileage and is cheap to sell.

Issue: We want a RWD, lightweight, affordable sports car that doesn't get good gas mileage but blows everything else off the road.

Solution: We let Toyota water it down, put the crappiest engine they have in it, then we all buy it dirt cheap and swap 2JZ's in it.

[Keiri]

Problem: Toyota wants to build a RWD, lightweight, affordable. sports car, then water it down so that it gets good gas mileage and is cheap to sell.

Issue: We want a RWD, lightweight, affordable sports car that doesn't get good gas mileage but blows everything else off the road.

Solution: We let Toyota water it down, put the crappiest engine they have in it, then we all buy it dirt cheap and swap 2JZ's in it.

...I believe Dan is on to something.

[HectortheRican]

Problem: Toyota wants to build a RWD, lightweight, affordable. sports car, then water it down so that it gets good gas mileage and is cheap to sell.

Issue: We want a RWD, lightweight, affordable sports car that doesn't get good gas mileage but blows everything else off the road.

Solution: We let Toyota water it down, put the crappiest engine they have in it, then we all buy it dirt cheap and swap 2JZ's in it.

...I believe Dan is on to something.

Me too. I don't care how advanced the VVT-i gets and hybrid technologies that Toyota comes out with, a nice 2JZ solves everything.

[richee3]

I'm only half kidding. I really do want to see a 2JZ in one of these.

[BriinumsBo]

Toyota FT86 concept in Gran Turismo 5

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that looks hot man. the turbo g-series has like 221hp. crossing fingers for a turbo version

[BriinumsBo]

weird, i have to check my self but seems the gran turismo 5 FT86 specs state that NA is 221hp and the turbo model has 290hp. it makes more sense for a 2 liter boxer monster.

[Neon90424]

Why would you buy an evo? what would you do with the other 3 seats and whole extra doors.

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jan 22, 2011 - 11:13 AM

[BriinumsBo]

why such a comment? 4 doors is awesome, awd is cool, turbo is cool, big power is even cooler. evo overall is the best awd around. it could be a st185/205 but the stock power levels on celica are just poor.
back on topic, Subaru will present "rear wheel drive sports car concept" at Geneva Motor Show this march, it could be the "other face" of ft86

This post has been edited by BriinumsBo: Jan 24, 2011 - 1:42 AM

[3WayStunna]

It WILL be RWD. It has already been confirmed.

Subaru’s new Coupe is go! The Japanese firm has confirmed that a concept version of its long-awaited Coupe, jointly developed with Toyota, will make its world debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March. No pictures have yet been released, but our exclusive renderings give you an idea of how the newcomer will look.


What’s more, the firm has confirmed that the car will be built on an all-new platform, and while the Coupe will feature Subaru’s trademark horizontally-opposed boxer engine, it won’t get the firm’s symmetrical all-wheel drive. Instead, like to Toyota model, it will be rear-drive, giving the firm a rival to Hyundai’s Genesis Coupe in the US market.


Subaru has also confirmed that it will show its new Impreza Concept, which was first seen at the LA Show last year, and the firm’s new Trezia model which is a B-segment MPV that’s essentially a rebadged version of Toyota’s forthcoming Verso-S.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpr...rive_coupe.html

The comments on the bottom of that page make me laugh. Guess they seem to forget the fact that toyota pioneered japan's way into the NOW WRC by dominating the latter half of class B rally, and the first few years of class A. They also pioneered many techologies that helped them get that distinction. And in the end, toyota ended with some of the most popular sports cars for the car enthusiast amongst us, and even "partnered" with subaru( if you want to count buying out more than half the companies stock as a partnership), for as i can see it to dominate three sides of the automotive market. Let subaru do good with their little rally machines...let lexus soar, and toyota just has to focus on the ****ty ECO vehichles they have been putting out thus far...****ty for toyota fans, cool for lexus and subauru owners because they still get what they want...

Still, i welcome our new RWD sports coupes....whenever i do make it back to america, i will be picking up the Subaru version..That thing is too sexy looking to pass up!!!

This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Jan 24, 2011 - 11:06 PM

[Neon90424]

why such a comment? 4 doors is awesome, awd is cool, turbo is cool, big power is even cooler. evo overall is the best awd around. it could be a st185/205 but the stock power levels on celica are just poor.
back on topic, Subaru will present "rear wheel drive sports car concept" at Geneva Motor Show this march, it could be the "other face" of ft86

I dunno Coupe is a sports car 4 doors is a family car IMHO, 185 and 205 are rally cars, and kick ass ones at that.

The Gran Chaco Rally 2010 edition from paraguay, which is harsh desert racing, we got Evo 10's 9s 8's 7s Subaru imprezas the new ones the old ones...

This one took em all to school

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jan 24, 2011 - 11:03 PM

[Stambo]

honestly there are to many subaru fan boys out there saying that toyota is making this car worse. I still couldn't pick any other two car companies that could go together so well as Toyota and subaru would

[3WayStunna]

why such a comment? 4 doors is awesome, awd is cool, turbo is cool, big power is even cooler. evo overall is the best awd around. it could be a st185/205 but the stock power levels on celica are just poor.
back on topic, Subaru will present "rear wheel drive sports car concept" at Geneva Motor Show this march, it could be the "other face" of ft86

I dunno Coupe is a sports car 4 doors is a family car IMHO, 185 and 205 are rally cars, and kick ass ones at that.

The Gran Chaco Rally 2010 edition from paraguay, which is harsh desert racing, we got Evo 10's 9s 8's 7s Subaru imprezas the new ones the old ones...

This one took em all to school

Wow that thing is sexy...i would pay money for one of those snorkel kits...thank you sir for the picture

And i agree stambo. I have to say that subaru fanboys dont understand the fact that you have two companies who each have a long heritage in racing in general...well toyota does, but it seems only natural that btwn the two, something like this would eventually happen....back to the OP's point, if it even matters on this topic, it would be nice to see how this blending of ideas will turn out. Toyota has a name behind it and so does subaru. I dont think they wouldve cut corners in the design of these two vehichles even though they are both RWD instead of AWD. I mean, since the OP started this topic discussing the merits and downfalls of both drivetrain systems, this situation should prove to be a good comparison.

This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Jan 24, 2011 - 11:21 PM

[Keiri]

Drool...



I'm liking the way the front looks. I can't wait for more.


Source: http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/2011/01/...iled-at-geneva/

[Neon90424]

The odometer on my screen just passed 999999 KM while scrolling that picture lol...

Oh btw, That car in the pic is an original ST185 Carlos Sainz, Toyotoshi (local toyota dealer) had it parked for 10 years, I heard all they did was work on the suspension and engine was pretty much stock they might have tuned something.

On the topic note...I don't understand why they just dont take the family out of the Caldina gt four, take out the pair of doors slap on a limited edition garret turbo on it force yamaha to make a vvtl-i head and a 8500 rpm limit...aerodynamic the ***&!@$ out of it make a regular aspirated celica version and GO GO GO!

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Jan 26, 2011 - 7:39 AM

[azian_advanced]

it has that subaru look to it now... me likey.



This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Jan 26, 2011 - 9:55 AM

[BriinumsBo]

more enhanced pics..





FT-86 II concept: New Toyota concept hint

[Helix]

Do i sense a touch of LFA in that shot ?