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[SupraKid]

The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.

Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:

1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard

If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.


I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 22, 2011 - 3:35 PM

[richee3]

1.) You put projectors behind frosted lenses in your headlights. You have COMPLETELY defied the purpose of both projector headlights AND frosted lenses. Hope you have night vision because you effectively have no high beams at all.

2.) I saw a music video once. Did I become Jimi Hendrix? Just because you've read a thread about the 3S swap doesn't mean you can do the 3S swap. So, unless you start heeding the advice from those of us who actually HAVE done the research, this project will come to a grinding halt. You'll mess your car up beyond repair and then you'll have to sell a Celica that doesn't run because it has no motor.

[Needles]

i get the engine here in mtl, i found almost 10 3sgte 3th gen here in montreal now, and the best deal i got they sell me the engine whit all and all the clutch assembly but whitout the tranny for 1400$ in very good shape, if i have the money i buy it today, and pick it up today !!! i hav e found 2 engine 2th gen 3sgte 1 for 800 and 1 for 900$....whitout tranny, just search jdm montreal , u have live listing on what they have in staock, no need shipping for me lol

1.) You put projectors behind frosted lenses in your headlights. You have COMPLETELY defied the purpose of both projector headlights AND frosted lenses. Hope you have night vision because you effectively have no high beams at all.

2.) I saw a music video once. Did I become Jimi Hendrix? Just because you've read a thread about the 3S swap doesn't mean you can do the 3S swap. So, unless you start heeding the advice from those of us who actually HAVE done the research, this project will come to a grinding halt. You'll mess your car up beyond repair and then you'll have to sell a Celica that doesn't run because it has no motor.

i caanot use hicg beam cauze its too much high for the other, they flash me....and the high beam is not bad, someday i will change the lens...

[SupraKid]

High beams are not made to use when other ppl are around, they are made to be used when your alone with no other cars(or lights) around, so you can see the deer (or moose where you are) before you hit them.


Goodluck with your swap and ill be awaiting your millions of questions and rants about how we didnt tell you so..


The lowest priced 3rd gen on jdm montreal is $2,000. If you were smart you would buy this:

http://www.jdm-online.com/jdm-engines/toyo...nt-clip-94.html

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Jan 22, 2011 - 4:23 PM

[JuMPiiN]

If you pay 1500 for that your crazy...... seriously by all means dont buy from that company or tiger.... there always the cheapest, they dont take care of there engines, ext ext ext..... there that cheap bc there not taken care of. Buy from someone or some respectable company.

[Needles]

If you pay 1500 for that your crazy...... seriously by all means dont buy from that company or tiger.... there always the cheapest, they dont take care of there engines, ext ext ext..... there that cheap bc there not taken care of. Buy from someone or some respectable company.

ur 100% right, i heard today that they drop 1 engine from the top plate to the floor and they put it back on the plate

[Needles]

this one is 1500$,its from JDM NAGOYA they have it in stock in montreaL, they will sold it to me whitout tranny, for 1400$ , here is the spec
Description
Used 94-97 JDM Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 3SGTE 245HP Engine Swap.

Motor, 5 Speed AWD Transmission, Un-Cut Wiring Harness and ECU.

The approximate mileage on this engine/transmission is between 25K-35K miles.
The motor/transmission comes with the following:

•Complete Motor Block and Head
•5 Speed Manual Transmission AWD----i dont buy it (but they let me the clutch assembly)

•Un-Cut Engine Wiring Harness
•Engine Control Unit (ECU)
•Igniter Chip
•Fuse Box

•Intake Manifold
•Exhaust Manifold
•Turbo Charger
•Turbo Manifold
•Top Mount Intercooler

•Injectors
•Fuel Rail
•Distributor
•Power Steering Pump
•A/C Compressor
•Alternator
•Clutch Assembly (Clutch Disc, Flywheel, Pressure Plate)
•Stainless Steel Down Pipe
•Un-Cut Cable Shifter

•Everything shown in pictures



This post has been edited by Needles: Jan 23, 2011 - 12:00 AM

[Needles]

there is total cost i spend on my car since i got it, just let u know all that is my 5th celica , i did have 1987 gts , one 1990 gt red, one 1990 gts blue, one gts black 1991, and my 1994 gts,

1300$ the caR
APPROX 200$ ON THE BODY (RUST ON THE rocker each side, )
floor is 100% cleaN (DUE TO OIL LEAK LOL )
NEW FRONT DISK AND BRAKE ALREADY ON
new boot (100$)
steering !))100$
seat recaro 180$
refurnish seat stuff (120$
rear wing block 100$
hood gt4 300$
front vis gt4 thunder 520$ (shipping and c ustomer bull**** price,,,original for 188$)
new tire
new shifter knob short shifter
repair antenna fix
and fix a llot of thing on engine (tune up) to make it run 100% good (trhottle etc)
had change the cover valve gasket 27$
had change the seal behind the timing belt (big big job) 30$
new wiper 60$
new exhaust (all the systhem)
change fuel line (rust on it) 60$
chANGE BRAKE LINE(RUST) they broke on road) 40$
and lots more to come whit the 3sgte soooon ,
new spak polug cable 90$
bi xenon angel 170$ (deal)
hid 150$
blue led dash+led int 60$
flasher 96+ 30$
blue led flasher 15$



time on car ......priceless !!

This post has been edited by Needles: Jan 25, 2011 - 8:11 PM

[mkernz22]

that W2A in the picture you posted looks f*cked.
have fun getting a new one for a couple hundred.

[Needles]

snowy day....


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[Needles]

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[Needles]

todaY's works, took me 1 hours


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[Needles]

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total cost 16,50$



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sorry for the bad quelity of picture ,

This post has been edited by Needles: Feb 11, 2011 - 2:53 PM

[cjh4l22]

dude are you typing all of this from a cell phone? or have you misplaced your "del" or "backspace" keys?
its 3RD gen, not 3th gen.
quality not quelity
replacing the oil seal is not nearly as big a job as a motor swap.
how did an OIL leak (literally like the dirtiest thing to clean, ever) give you a clean floor?
that rear bumper is ... yea
and you didn't need them to send you the entire steering column for only a steering wheel. they detach.
x2 on the bi-xenon/HID upgrade you did with your original headlight glass

and there is NO-way you'll swap that quick. and if you say so, then prove it. i've been working on my 2nd gen 3sgte swap for a year and its still not done because of alll kinds of random issues that popped up. and my motor was already fully built, not a "good one" picked from 1000's imported from japan.


but good luck to ya, seriously.

[Needles]

dude are you typing all of this from a cell phone? or have you misplaced your "del" or "backspace" keys?
its 3RD gen, not 3th gen.
quality not quelity
replacing the oil seal is not nearly as big a job as a motor swap.
how did an OIL leak (literally like the dirtiest thing to clean, ever) give you a clean floor?
that rear bumper is ... yea
and you didn't need them to send you the entire steering column for only a steering wheel. they detach.
x2 on the bi-xenon/HID upgrade you did with your original headlight glass

and there is NO-way you'll swap that quick. and if you say so, then prove it. i've been working on my 2nd gen 3sgte swap for a year and its still not done because of alll kinds of random issues that popped up. and my motor was already fully built, not a "good one" picked from 1000's imported from japan.


but good luck to ya, seriously.

i dont order piece, i just go buy them in store, i dindt order the steering, and sorry for my non delete style, cauze my english is bad cauze im french,
oil leak on the shaft make splash everywhere,


rear bumber i think of cutting the side and fix it on the original
how the hell is taking u a year to do the swap, anyway
im gonna have my mecanic friend and we already have setup to do it in 3 or 4 days,

he race in professionnal bike racing , he tune and built is own bike and get the podium more often than any others, he got about 10 toyota supra and porsche had ask him to work for them, but he will do the swap whit me for free (he is my old friend) its gonna take time before i get the custom exhaust and maybe the fuel pump but soon i have all the part, nothing gonna stop me , bigger wire for fuel pump, nice weld relay, wiring harness modif welded, plkug for intercooler hybrid clutch etc etc etc...stop ppl thinking i dunno nothing about it thats anoying

i will put pic and step by step for the install , but i dont have my engine before a couple of week..... i wait

but thanks for the ggod luck

This post has been edited by Needles: Feb 14, 2011 - 2:11 AM

[whatthe]

I really want to see this modified front bumper to a rear bumper. Would be mad fun driving in reverse.

[Needles]

I really want to see this modified front bumper to a rear bumper. Would be mad fun driving in reverse.

hahaha yeah really lol

[delusionz]

Looks like everyones hating on you for looking into getting boosted, haha jealous much?

The W2A in that pic is fine, those scratches ontop are just on the sticker. you can peel the sticker off and order a new one for a couple bucks, no need to replace the whole thing.

[SeverX13]

Looks like everyones hating on you for looking into getting boosted, haha jealous much?

The W2A in that pic is fine, those scratches ontop are just on the sticker. you can peel the sticker off and order a new one for a couple bucks, no need to replace the whole thing.

not hating because hes boosted. why would someone already boosted or swaped be jealous. most of us who are "hating" have been through it or done a swap before. any who. we arent hating. we are saying for him never havin experience with a 3s swap before it will not take him 3 or 4 days. little problems always arise. i had "plans" to boost my car in 5 days. ended up being 2 weeks.

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Feb 15, 2011 - 1:34 PM