ST or GT simple way to tell? Options

[Ziptied]

Looking at a 95 liftback online, it's got the oe bbs wheels, no sunroof, black cloth interior and a manual trans, no engine pic or I'd know right off. Any way to tell without looking at the motor?

[stephen_lee]

ST has rear drums. really the only way to tell other than engine and badging

[Ziptied]

It's a GT, sweet. Looks like I'll finally have a car I've wanted for years.

[dustin15brown]

not necessarily. just because it has disc brake rears doesn't mean it's a GT. A LOT of people convert their rear drums to disc brakes.

[Ziptied]

not necessarily. just because it has disc brake rears doesn't mean it's a GT. A LOT of people convert their rear drums to disc brakes.

I confirmed that it's a GT by the chassis code. Side note, I love your car, are those 5th gen mirrors?

[stephen_lee]

but the chances of someone liking their car enough and knowing enough to change the rears to a disc should know if its a gt/st

[Ziptied]

but the chances of someone liking their car enough and knowing enough to change the rears to a disc should know if its a gt/st

Yeah, owner is oblivious to anything car related it seems. Another side note, your V6 swap has me drooling.

[stephen_lee]

those are the people you can usually talk down..

and i know it still excites me when i work on it lol thanks!

[Ziptied]

Looks like I'm still on the hunt. It's got a salvage title.

[stephen_lee]

that doesnt always mean a bad thing..

some cases salvage may mean it was in a flood and water got inside, or a engine bay fire or any collision where the airbags went off causeing a lot of "damage" that is a simple bolt back in kinda thing.

my daily and project are both "salvage" my daily was in a front end collision that made the airbags go off slight misalignment of body panels have been a side effect

my project? the airbags went off. i cant find ANY other damage. and i tore that thing to the frame.

salvage title = good point in lowering the price just make sure to check that...

the front end lines up

check the frame rails/fender aprons(where the upper fender bolts to) in the engine bay carefully. if it was in a serious front end collision u will be able to tell by these two parts

on the pass side try to lift the airbag cover. if you can they went off..

check all the windows for the TOYOTA markings. it may have been vandalized(broke all the glass/mess up the paint = totaled w/o any REAL damage)

water damage? if you can smell mold inside its was probably this. but other than that as long as the ecu wasnt damaged or got in the engine(if it runs ur safe)

[al94st]

how much are you looking to pay and does it have to be a gt?

[99celicanancy]

ew drum brakes....

[celica-s]

ST chassis code AT200 - - - -

no abs?
7afe engine
No foglamps

[Goonter]

ST chassis code AT200 - - - -

no abs?
7afe engine
No foglamps

Weren't fog lamps option??

[Malhar95]

My car doesn't have abs nor foglights and its a gt

[whitewhisky]

my celica 1994 / AT200 - 7afe but the rear brakes original disc and abs standart

This post has been edited by whitewhisky: Aug 23, 2011 - 2:31 AM

[KaneO]

I believe the GT has a beta/different looking wing compared the the ST as well? I have a ZR (an Aussie GT) that has no fog lamps? Were they optional or removed in its life time?

[celica-s]

ST chassis code AT200 - - - -

no abs?
7afe engine
No foglamps

Weren't fog lamps option??

i believe its an optional equipment. my celi didn't come with it. no brackets, no switches and harness. so i assume the first owner didn't opt. to have it.

[Ziptied]

I'm looking to spend no more than 2500, seems fair price for a decent gt liftback

This post has been edited by Ziptied: Aug 23, 2011 - 5:37 PM

[RabidTRD]

I'm looking to spend no more than 2500, seems fair price for a decent gt liftback

I only spent 2400 on mine. It's a 94 GT-S with 5 speed. (Guy didn't know it had the solid struts or he probably would have asked more.) Mine had only 148k miles when I bought it.

If you're only expecting to pay $2500 for one, make sure you check it out. Most that are that cheap need work. Mine needed all new gaskets, new filler neck, rust fixed, spark plug tubes re-sealed, tune up, new rad... so look at it carefully.