1999 Celica GT with VVT-I Inside, new video up 8/6/22 Options

[BonzaiCelica]

from what I read from that
3 gen 3S-GE - limiter 7500rpm
Beams 3S-GE - limiter is 7450rpm
and redline starts at 7,000rpm, and max advised rpm is 7,200rpm for both of these 3S-GE's


and also pointing out thats 197bhp not whp or flywheel hp

Try bouncing off the limiter then, any gear just foot flat to the floor nananananananana and tell me u make it to 7500.... No 3rd or 4th gen 3S-G* I've ever driven has revved that high, they all cut out at 7200 which is the end of the small red line and the start of the big red line on the tachometer.

This ones for you Delusionz

[sbennett]

Referring back to the S2000 antenna, was there anything you had to do to make it fit? Or did you just buy it off ebay, and screw it in? My antenna was torn off and I like the way that one looks on your celi

[BonzaiCelica]

So after 8 months of not buying anything for my car I come up with this...

[S8S8]

That's a nice little haul you have there.

[SupraKid]

You stole my SS suspension ya ass.

[BonzaiCelica]

much better than using 2 x 4's



although this take an extra Hour and a half by yourself to remove and install I did so, so that removing the transmission and re-installing made it 10 times easier!



and besides they both needed a deep cleaning, after both end cv boots were torn and was driving on them for a month.

before :



after :



hard to see but took at least an hour to clean all grease off of them.

going back to oem mounts only, to lessen vibration.



after 10,000 miles of driving this is what a polyurethane insert does to a new motor mount :



clutch hybrid although a hybrid disk isn't best setup for 3sge beams flywheel, check out richee3 progress thread Its all explained there : http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...0&start=640





As you can see Southbend Clutch uses Exedy parts which I like (exedy parts are = to Aisin, toyota main manufacture for oem parts, along with Denso) still went with a oem release bearing to be safe.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 24, 2012 - 5:10 PM

[mi645]

I also just got a 99 celica stock tho and was wondering if I can check out your car sometimes live in Cali also never met another celica 6gen fan id like to tho

[delusionz]

from what I read from that
3 gen 3S-GE - limiter 7500rpm
Beams 3S-GE - limiter is 7450rpm
and redline starts at 7,000rpm, and max advised rpm is 7,200rpm for both of these 3S-GE's


and also pointing out thats 197bhp not whp or flywheel hp

Try bouncing off the limiter then, any gear just foot flat to the floor nananananananana and tell me u make it to 7500.... No 3rd or 4th gen 3S-G* I've ever driven has revved that high, they all cut out at 7200 which is the end of the small red line and the start of the big red line on the tachometer.

This ones for you Delusionz

this is my st205 hitting the limiter at 7200rpm
http://youtu.be/vJyfBDeN2lI
my old st202 hit the limiter in the same identical place, in your video it goes way past there, since my cars have all been genuine jdm models, i chalk that up to calibration

[BonzaiCelica]

toyota forced me to install a lightweight flywheel because I somehow missed the fact that a 3sgte pressure plate will not work on a beams flywheel. not so much forced but I didnt want to install a oem 3sgte 19 pound flywheel (which would of taken another few days since the shop was already closed) plus didnt want an oem beams pressure plate.

F1 Racing Chromoly 11.4 pounds


hehe cleaned transmission from transmission shop called anaheim gear


and my exhaust set up :



before I had these universal 14 inch fans just attached to the radiator with zip ties. Now I've made brackets :



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 27, 2014 - 2:38 AM

[richee3]

You definitely don't want the 3S-GTE flywheel. Good call. While it works and I owe bloodMoney my life for giving me a flywheel, my spare BEAMS with shot rings was way more rev-happy than the one I have now. Plus I suspect my flywheel of being the culprit for my car running rich. I'm jelly of your lightweight flywheel

[BonzaiCelica]

yea it was surprisingly cheap also. at $185 including CA tax thats pretty good. no rough idle either. It weighs 3.6 pounds lighter than oem which isn't much. not sure how much of an affect it has just yet. still taking it easy on the new clutch.

also do you guys think this shifter cable needs replacing???



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 7, 2012 - 1:25 AM

[Akirad1]

yes why wait for that thing to break since you already have the car down fix it

[BonzaiCelica]

here you go delusionz im not redlining my gears as I'll make a video for that later. But tell me if you notice how off my speedometer is. I'm in 5th Gear



here is a youtube video so you can compare. note the rpm gauge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrTfiXIddls

I swapped the helical lsd into my original open differential beams manual transmission s54. The guy at the transmission shop told me ring and pinion count was the same for both transmission but when I recorded this video it proved otherwise. The new video is the latest update. view both video please for reference!!

Both video are 11,000 miles apart so yes tire wear might have to due with it a little, but the rpm are 400-500rpm difference when going 85 mph!!


This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 21, 2012 - 6:43 PM

[delusionz]

Yes. 3600rpm is unusually high for 110km/h, the 2nd video looks better

[Rusty]

interesting conclusion. I'm guessing your happy with it now?

At the time when I came up with the reason why the speed/revs was different. I was basing it on what you'd told us S54 transmission with a MR-S LSD. Put the numbers into a calculator and they matched to what was happening in the video. But if your happy with it now, 'rev vs speed' and a smoother feeling transmission. all good

[BonzaiCelica]

my question is which one of these is the pinion so I can can't the teeth!! but your mention of it being a mrs helica lsd still doesn't make sense. When the guy pulled apart both transmission he said ring count was the same for both lsd and open differential. Yet now with the car driving the gears are that like a normal s54 transmission. Can it be that the pinion teeth count is different on this transmission thats below in the picture, can you point out to me what internal transmission part is the pinion???!!!




This is quoted by a 6gc member via email :

Very interesting I have learned something new about the ring and pinion compatability between the S and C series transmission. However dont get so cocky yet lol... read on and you'll see that there is nothing in that thread which shows why that trans seems to be geared lower/shorter then a stock 6th gen GT. If anything it would be geared longer... which is what u where saying right?

If not then then yes it is possible ur car is geared higher/longer then a stock gt but i doubt its that of the custom work and probably because that trans is NOT an S54 but an S51... if it is an S54 then its the 71/18 = 3.94444 version. But this would lead to better performance since it would take advantage of your higher redline as well as the increase in power and torque. It might also lead to better fuel economy.

"The 4.176 S54 has 17 teeth on the output shaft driven gear and 71 teeth on the ring gear."
These are the s54's that are in the gt 6th gens.

"The Corolla's C59 uses a 67 tooth ring gear with a 17 tooth drive gear for 3.941. This is the perfect match for the S54's 17 tooth drive gear."

"So this gives the S54 with 17 teeth these possible differential gear ratios: 3.941, 4.058, and 4.176"

smaller the number the higher the gear.

so if you had the c59 ring gear then your car would be geared higher.

"It might be possible to use the 19 tooth output shaft from the C150 in the S series transmission, but that compatibility has not been proven. You'd also have to press the gears off each output shaft, which can be time consuming or expensive. These are only possibilities, not actualities. Gear lash between the output shaft pinion gear and the ring gear will be affected if you change one without changing the other. The gear lash may be too great for your particular application, like if you switched to a 67 tooth ring gear when the pinion gear was designed for a 71 tooth, and such. Compatibility has not been proven with such ring gears in the S transmissions as gear lash must be considered and measured."

I find it unlikely, but not impossible someone would have gone through this trouble. If they did however it would still lead to a higher final drive as "C150 3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 Diff: 3.526" Still higher then stock.

In fact looking at the numbers on that thread the s54 in the 6th gens has the lowest final drive of all of the options.

.... and then i saw ur post all the way down at the bottom.

"lets not forget the C160 and C60 final drive gear ratio. I have a 4.529 final drive gear ratio currently in my S54 Helical LSD transmission. Greater acceleration!! "

So your saying someone pressed the gears of of each output shaft and swapped out the output shaft and ring gear from a C160 or C60 trans into that transmission I sold you... Perhaps but ill believe it when i see pictures of the ring and pinion gear.

and yes I'm happy with it now!! I don't think i'll ever get the money to buy a standalone ecu. Once the larger diameter wheels are fitted I'll have slightly longer gears. just want better air/fuel ratio

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 11, 2012 - 2:46 PM

[Rusty]

top left on the first shaft I'm pretty sure

[BonzaiCelica]

intsalled these today. good upgrade and fairly cheap as well. stiffer front feel
they should have came with the grease fitting like you see in trdproven end link install thread. I just got unlucky and got the earlier version, even though I also ordered it from the same place as trdproven (rockauto)



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2013 - 4:27 PM

[celica74]

someones got them a gsxr

[delusionz]

hey i was thinking, do you use the factory wiring for your fuel pump? if you do, does it still retain a resistor pack? if your running full power to the fuel pump it might explain why yours is noisy,

through the factory wiring your fuel pump should only see 11.something volts?

oh, those are some odd looking endlinks you got there, they look like dumb bells lol. do you have upgraded swaybars too? what would be next? reinforcing the thin little mounting tabs on your coilovers? lol