Oil pan baffles?, help it w/o hurting it. Options

[mandrek]

ok, so another small project on my list of small projects wile i am rebuilding this motor. i have and i will continue to Auto-x this car, and have been looking to do some small simple mods that i could do to help A: avoid posible issues caused by harder driving conditions, and B: might help give any kind of performance increase...

this is more on the condition A.
my original reason for why i am having to rebuild a motor for this car is partialy due to some harder G's from when i was taking an on ramp loop. ( thats not all of it, but part of the condition that caused my perdicament)
so in thinking about that, and seeing how "race motor" application oil pans have baffles or gates built into the pan to help keep oil from sloshing away from the oil pick up, i was thinking about welding something in to the pan wile i have it out, and sort of do a simplified anti-slosh system. nothing to complex, so a gate design is out of the question. so lets look at what we got.

the oil pan:


and the matirial i got from home depot that i was thinking about using to make some baffles.




gonna work on some concepts and post em in a bit..

any suggestions, opinions, or even perhaps pix from anyone who has done somthing like this before. dont hesistate. go for it!

[Smaay]

it wont hurt, but its really hard to weld on these oil pans. but unless you are doing serious road racing like autoX you really dont need to do it.

[mandrek]

so this is what i am thnking about doing.

on the metal ill be using for the baffles

the idea is to make some legs to weld to, but to also alow oil to flow easily (down low) to the oil pick-up area..
and three configurations i was thinking about
A

B

C


i am leaning heavily on C, but am still open to suggestions..
i am thining about also stacking the walls of the baffles, or perhaps even doing C with a smaller ring being about an inch bigger in diamiter than the oil pick-up, and a much bigger second ring , two high.. im am trying to think of a design that will not impead regular flow into the pan/pick-up area, but also slow down any kind of sloshing inside the pan in hopes of keeping enough oil around the pick-up area.

as mentioned i am open to suggestions.

what do you think about the baffles? keep the cut box cut outs?
dont cut anything out?
add more?
what kind of configuration do you like/ think would work the best?

[mandrek]

it wont hurt, but its really hard to weld on these oil pans. but unless you are doing serious road racing like autoX you really dont need to do it.

thanx smaay, yeah welding on these is indeed a pain, had to weld a bung in another pan for a turbo oil drain, took me two false starts before i got my setting dialed in right on the mig..

and yes a agree that under normal conditions it is not needed, but the car will be seeing boost later in about a year (if the money is there lol) and even before then i will be back to Auto-Xing with the car, and if i can get a design that will help avoid excesive sloshing away from the pick-up, and i definatly do not want to do all that i can to avoid any kind of low oil conditions once i am raceing. and especialy after it is boosted.

[mandrek]

Any one els got suggestions or points on design? perhaps some insite on if this will help get the desired effect? or do the exact opposit? i am about ready to do this, but would like some more feed back before i do...

thanx again all!!

[199celica]

i personally think that project C will be the most efficient way to baffle the oil because of the shape of the oil pickup is round itself i'm thinking the oil will remain around the pickup longer and have more fed to it rather than a square i;m thinking the square designs may deflect some of the oil causing it to go around the baffle but that's just my point of view. goodluck on your baffle and happy holidays bud.

[mandrek]

i personally think that project C will be the most efficient way to baffle the oil because of the shape of the oil pickup is round itself i'm thinking the oil will remain around the pickup longer and have more fed to it rather than a square i;m thinking the square designs may deflect some of the oil causing it to go around the baffle but that's just my point of view. goodluck on your baffle and happy holidays bud.

yeah was thinking along the same lines on the "C", and how that no matter what the direction the G's were loading that there would be a good "net" to help slow the sloshing.. plus i think it will be alot easyer to shape, and then weld down. i am going to start with a large ring first, as big as can fit in it, with the center being under the pick-up.

will post pix after i am finnished with the pan.

thanx for the replys!!!

[mandrek]

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This post has been edited by mandrek: Dec 21, 2011 - 4:11 PM