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> Can I swap a 3S-GTE into my '97 ST?
post Jan 21, 2012 - 2:15 AM
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My tranny started popping out of 3rd and 5th a few weeks ago, and my mechanic said the synchro was bad. Basically, I'm looking at a rebuild, which makes me wonder if I should replace my 176k mile 7A-FE simultaneously. What would I need to get a 3S-GTE into my ST?
post Jan 21, 2012 - 3:01 AM
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read the stickies.

all info is there


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post Jan 21, 2012 - 10:07 AM
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In this case you can easily search your answer, but in many cases the search function on this forum is very limited and poor.
post Jan 21, 2012 - 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (Arsaces @ Jan 21, 2012 - 10:07 AM) *
In this case you can easily search your answer, but in many cases the search function on this forum is very limited and poor.


I know, and I've found a lot of info about some of the stuff I'd need to do. I am trying to put together a compete list of every little piece I'd have to buy (preferably from someone who has done it themselves) so I can get a cost estimate. Also, how concerned should I be about the legality of the emissions from a Japanese 3SGTE? Even links to other posts that answer my questions would be appreciated!
post Jan 21, 2012 - 10:34 AM
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Howdy

welcome to the forums, the short answer is yes

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=73956

very comprehensive guides in this post outlining your swap options and everything you will need as well as walkthroughs. theres one like it at the top every section in the forum that covers pretty much every thing about maintaining and modifying our cars .

where in TX are you located?

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post Jan 21, 2012 - 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (JasonTX @ Jan 21, 2012 - 11:34 AM) *
Howdy

welcome to the forums, the short answer is yes

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=73956

very comprehensive guides in this post outlining your swap options and everything you will need as well as walkthroughs. theres one like it at the top every section in the forum that covers pretty much every thing about maintaining and modifying our cars .

where in TX are you located?

Thank you for the info! I'm in Rowlett (Dallas County).
post Jan 24, 2012 - 2:37 PM
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more than you can afford pal, i love that quote... anyways it will be cheaper to rebuild your 7A. follow my assembly guide.


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post Jan 24, 2012 - 3:14 PM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 24, 2012 - 3:37 PM) *
more than you can afford pal, i love that quote... anyways it will be cheaper to rebuild your 7A. follow my assembly guide.



true a rebuild may be cheaper but dallas jdm motors had a 4th gen 3sgte for under a grand a few weeks ago i bet you can haggle a bit and have them drop it off for you free since your only like half an hour away.


as far as bang for the buck if you can turn your own wrench and read a wiring diagram a 3sgte may be in your future

check out eastern pros threads. a lot of good 4th gen info there

peace

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post Jan 24, 2012 - 5:08 PM
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Are you wanting to rebuild the 3s that you want to buy, or are you just going to install it?

If you're just going to install it you need to purchase GT engine mounts, wire loom, extra 12/14 gauge wiring, oil,oil filter, coolant, spark plugs, rotor cap, rotor button, spark plug wires....and some electrical/mechanical skills.

You could probably get away with a swap for around 3500...

If you want to rebuild...

You would need to add pistons, rods, bearing, and all needed seals...

This would cost you a minimum of 6000...


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post Jan 24, 2012 - 6:38 PM
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QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Jan 24, 2012 - 5:08 PM) *
Are you wanting to rebuild the 3s that you want to buy, or are you just going to install it?

If you're just going to install it you need to purchase GT engine mounts, wire loom, extra 12/14 gauge wiring, oil,oil filter, coolant, spark plugs, rotor cap, rotor button, spark plug wires....and some electrical/mechanical skills.

You could probably get away with a swap for around 3500...

If you want to rebuild...

You would need to add pistons, rods, bearing, and all needed seals...

This would cost you a minimum of 6000...


i may be mistaken but i think the options he's considering are install a 3s or break apart and rebuild the 7a while his tranny is in the shop.

-jec

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post Jan 30, 2012 - 12:25 PM
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you dont need pistons or rods. just bearings, rings, gaskets, etc. etc.


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post Feb 17, 2012 - 12:02 AM
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Do the swap if you can afford it. Keep in mind you'll have to get a transmission as well as Axels to complete it. Everything adds up to a lot ...a lot of money and u will not pass emissions legally. You will have to pay a slum to pass u


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post Feb 17, 2012 - 1:07 AM
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well where I live, I drove my 97 ST up with the 3SGTE in and passed with the plug in. so it might just depend on where you are and what they test.

but yeah stickies stickies stickies. one of the first persons to do a write up about the 3S swap did it into an ST. basically ST's have more work because not only do you need parts the GT people need you also need all the GT parts they already have.

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