gt4 front clip, wondering about a price for a conversion of a 97 gt to a gt Options

[danny1985]

ok i got me a 1997 celica gt manuel i found a gt4 front clip for around 4000 dollars was wondering how much will it cost me to convert it and also my friend has a st215 caldina 3sgte motor should i use that one instead of the 3sgte that comes with the clip just curious

[celica74]

3rd gen is the way too go. not much on the 4th gen from what i understand. if you just swap in the 3rd gen your looking at the price for the clip, and any upgrades you plan on doing while you have it out(clutch, water pump and timing belt which should always be done anyways). A complete rebuild is really personal preference. If it was me id rebuild it so i know everything internal is sound and in good shape. assuming you doing the wiring yourself, you should be spending more then 5-6k if you just swap it in with a new clutch, wp, and tb. You can just use your gt trans and axles.

[rave2n]

ok i got me a 1997 celica gt manuel i found a gt4 front clip for around 4000 dollars was wondering how much will it cost me to convert it and also my friend has a st215 caldina 3sgte motor should i use that one instead of the 3sgte that comes with the clip just curious

Does that st215 comes with the e153 transmission? If so, scrap the 4th gen, and get just the trannie.

Get the clip.

[Smaay]

no, the Caldina never came with a 5 speed option.

OP dont bother messing with the ST215 setup. get the clip and use everything in that

[danny1985]

so go with the front clip and wat about making it awd

[rave2n]

no, the Caldina never came with a 5 speed option.

OP dont bother messing with the ST215 setup. get the clip and use everything in that

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...889&hl=e153

[Special_Edy]

Be patient and shop around, you should be able to get one for less than 4 grand.

[danny1985]

Be patient and shop around, you should be able to get one for less than 4 grand.

i fount one or two less but this one came with all the parts to convert to awd unlike the others they were missing some of the parts or at least didnt mention them . im still shoppin around just was wonderin which i should do and about how much i need to save to convert if i got the front clip and convert it to be able to hold at least 400hp preferably 500 hp just curious i never really did a swap like this b4

[danny1985]

does anyone know of a good shop in tampa bay area that can convert my celi to awd when i get my front clip .

[danny1985]

also wat place do you recommend me get the parts from cause all the racing stores in tampa are pretty much closed or holes in the wall so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

[njccmd2002]

SEEMS like you need to do a whole lotta reading on this one... see other members awd conversions, and realize its a heck of a custom job,

see other members drop their car at garages to spend months with little or no job done, and it something is done is pure garbage.

its not an easy task, no im not scaring you, you are asking questions that could easily be answered by research.

if you want awd, be prepared to fork 10,000 for the man hours on that one, i dont think there are any shops with the experience on that one either, there is only a few awd converions by a few members.

there is not a how to book, some people have done custom, sliced and diced, then past 2 cars together, and weld the undercariage of the gt4 to a celica.

read their threads, and then decide,

[celica74]

SEEMS like you need to do a whole lotta reading on this one... see other members awd conversions, and realize its a heck of a custom job,

see other members drop their car at garages to spend months with little or no job done, and it something is done is pure garbage.

its not an easy task, no im not scaring you, you are asking questions that could easily be answered by research.

if you want awd, be prepared to fork 10,000 for the man hours on that one, i dont think there are any shops with the experience on that one either, there is only a few awd converions by a few members.

there is not a how to book, some people have done custom, sliced and diced, then past 2 cars together, and weld the undercariage of the gt4 to a celica.

read their threads, and then decide,

i would agree on this. In order to do the awd swap you have to have a burning addiction for it or your rich to pay someone to do it for you. honestly fwd is fine if you dont care about not using 1st or 2nd gear. 350hp to the front wheels is enough to satisfy anyone honestly.

[danny1985]

oh ok so realistically i should just get a full swap 3rd gen 3sgte from a mr2 and just get the hood from a gt4 and just get it to the hp i want . can the trans from a mr2 hold out to about 450 hp though or would i need a better transmission . i got about 13grand to get my celica and get it set up to the way i want so thats why i wasthinking about a gt4 awd set up cause i always wanted a awd celica this will be my 4th celica in all

[3WayStunna]

oh ok so realistically i should just get a full swap 3rd gen 3sgte from a mr2 and just get the hood from a gt4 and just get it to the hp i want . can the trans from a mr2 hold out to about 450 hp though or would i need a better transmission . i got about 13grand to get my celica and get it set up to the way i want so thats why i wasthinking about a gt4 awd set up cause i always wanted a awd celica this will be my 4th celica in all

For 13grand i would just buy this guys car.....
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=85373

Best awd swap thus far.

But anywho if not, why waste your time buying an MR2 clip and then the gt4 front end parts? Not only do you have to deal with reconfigging the engine and harness, but with the gt4 front clip, you get everything you seem to want (hood, bumper, etc..)

[danny1985]

i was lookin at a gt4 front clip but i was told the conversion would cost me more than wat it is actually worth . so i was still plannin on swap motors to the 3sgte but was wondering about the transmission is all . the gt4 front clip is 4000 but the mr2 full swap is 1700 so i was just wondering is all still a lil ways away from making my decision

[rave2n]

i was lookin at a gt4 front clip but i was told the conversion would cost me more than wat it is actually worth . so i was still plannin on swap motors to the 3sgte but was wondering about the transmission is all . the gt4 front clip is 4000 but the mr2 full swap is 1700 so i was just wondering is all still a lil ways away from making my decision

mr2 swap is going to be a pain in multiple ways

Go with the st205 front clip, get everything you need, including all the other tidbits that are often ignored when looking at the prices.

Mr2 is going to have a few things you need, not all, so expect to spend atleast another 2 grand in those parts equaling out to the 4k you could have spent with the st205 clip, and sold off the extra parts for money.

Thats the short story...

This post has been edited by rave2n: Aug 3, 2012 - 12:56 PM

[danny1985]

but wat about the awd transmission i know theres gonna be a lot of customizing for it . i would love to have a awd celica then a fwd but i dont want to go over 13 grand to convert it and get it to about 500 hp . so wat would you recommend then

[jordisonjr]

If you have the know how to convert it to AWD, then do it.
If you're planning to simply take it to a shop to do it, forget it. Its not going to happen.
It will take forever, or it won't be done properly as no shops really have experience on this.

As stated already, read the multiple AWD swaps on here before you even start thinking about it. Because its a crap load of work, and you better do as much research you can, and be prepared to get stuck, and not have much information to help you, because not many have converted to awd.

I agree with everyone in this thread, buy a st205 front clip, drop in the 3s, swap the front end, and sell off any remaining parts to decrease the cost.
I've never driven a car with 500hp or even 350hp, but i think 350 would be sufficient for a daily driver.

Spend the extra money you have on suspension, and focus on being able to put the power to the ground, rather than worrying about swapping to AWD.
It will be a better bang for your buck then the headaches of trying to swap to AWD on your own.

[danny1985]

so wat trans u recommend me use cause i been told that the mr2 transmission woud be best cause the s54 wont hold up to the power difference . so which one would be able to hold that much power better

[rave2n]

e153