 Brake Upgrade for ST, ST165 brakes on AT200 |
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 Aug 12, 2005 - 1:29 PM
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i'll check in person later this weekend
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Aug 22, 2005 - 10:14 PM
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 Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
I have ST185 single pot calipers and rotors on my AT200 front knuckles, they fit perfect.
I'll get you some pics in about a week. DEF. --------------------  I will return one day. |
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Nov 9, 2005 - 4:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
And the post comes back to life!
So from what I understand, the ST185 Dual Piston calipers are better than the 165 Dual pistons. Has anyone been able to find brake pads for these yet? And Coomer, I don't know if this was before or after your post about the ST185s giving you problems. How did that end up? You got the brakes on? And let me know if you found the brake pads. EDIT: How do you detach the brake line from the Caliper without breaking it? When I painted my calipers and the ones on my brother's tC, it seemed like it was hrard to get off. How would you take it off? This post has been edited by JoKeRkId613: Nov 9, 2005 - 4:03 PM --------------------  |
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Nov 9, 2005 - 4:04 PM
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QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Nov 9, 2005 - 1:01 PM) And the post comes back to life! So from what I understand, the ST185 Dual Piston calipers are better than the 165 Dual pistons. Has anyone been able to find brake pads for these yet? And Coomer, I don't know if this was before or after your post about the ST185s giving you problems. How did that end up? You got the brakes on? And let me know if you found the brake pads. EDIT: How do you detach the brake line from the Caliper without breaking it? When I painted my calipers and the ones on my brother's tC, it seemed like it was hrard to get off. How would you take it off? [right][snapback]355122[/snapback][/right] They're the same calipers. Where did you hear that ST185 dual pistons are better than ST165 dual pistons? And you remove the line with a special line wrench. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Nov 9, 2005 - 7:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
ooo. lol. my mistake. i misread the information. i thought i read that some people switch the st165 calipers for st185 calipers. lol. did you ever find brake pads for it tho? coom, i coulda sworn you bought the st185 brakes from someone and claimed that they didnt fit or something like that? so all i would need are the calipers and break pads and these will work on ym at200, right? what about the rear st185/165 disc breaks? are those dual pistons? would they fit my AT200? THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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Nov 9, 2005 - 7:43 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
i'm assuming GT calipers can't be swapped for Alltrac ones too? only the STs can?
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Nov 9, 2005 - 8:19 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
any update Romas?
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Jun 15, 2009 - 10:27 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Has anyone done this? I have ST165 calipers at the moment (they were a price I could not refuse) but what rotors is everyone using? I don't think the ST165 rotors are fitting....
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mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
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Jun 16, 2009 - 10:28 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
calipers fit with zero issues. I did it on my girls AT200
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Jun 17, 2009 - 7:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
Right - but the ROTORS are not fitting - and the Calipers are offset big time - as they use a larger rotor - so you can't use ST rotors
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mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
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Jun 23, 2009 - 7:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
so in the end ST185 fits on the st and are better than st165 is that right ?im thinking of upgrading brakes since they are bad and i need to replace them soon
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Oct 4, 2009 - 5:18 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 6, '09 From Bergen County,NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 10 (100%) |
Any update on this? Would like to try this out on my ST if it shows a difference
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Oct 5, 2009 - 12:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I am running ST165 calipers and rotors with the following modifications:
The middle hole in the rotor had to be enlarged to fit the hub correctly I used two washers from home depot on each brake mount to scoot the caliper back to match the offset provided by the rotors. We just got done with a 24 hour endurance event using this setup with EBC Red stuff and let me tell you...... AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME -------------------- -Mike
mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
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Mar 15, 2010 - 4:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
anybody have any pics of the st185 twin piston front brake calipers on an AT200 celica?
also I know that some SS-III and all GT-4 come with twin piston front brake calipers, and both SS-III and GT-4 have superstrut suspension, but are both calipers the same? Do SS-III celica come with the same brake set up as the gt-4. and the SS-II celica that came with mcpherson suspension, will those fit on gt sized brake rotors??? -------------------- For Sale Items:
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Apr 5, 2010 - 1:19 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
QUOTE (qatar11 @ Oct 5, 2009 - 1:01 PM)  I am running ST165 calipers and rotors with the following modifications: The middle hole in the rotor had to be enlarged to fit the hub correctly I used two washers from home depot on each brake mount to scoot the caliper back to match the offset provided by the rotors. We just got done with a 24 hour endurance event using this setup with EBC Red stuff and let me tell you...... AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME any pics of your setup? would like to see it |
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Apr 5, 2010 - 1:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Thats weird because on my girlfriends at200 I was able to use the stock st rotors with the st165 twin piston calipers just fine.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Apr 5, 2010 - 7:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Lake Orion, MI Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
I need to dig some photos up...
-------------------- -Mike
mjcoury@gmail.com Team Reynolds Style Celica Blog Celica Wiki It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. |
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Apr 9, 2010 - 10:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Will a big brake kit from a 2000-2003 celica work on the st celica?? Or those require you to have abs??
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Apr 9, 2010 - 11:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
The thing is, why would you pay that much, when you can piece together st205 front and rear brakes for far less than that brembo. You can still get a set of wilwood fronts for cheaper and k sport too. bolt pattern is right on, but unsure of the offsets.
-------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer 95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold 88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp) 94 Celica gt white (sold) In need of a rust free chassis!!!! |
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Apr 10, 2010 - 1:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
ah yes I know. Id rather get the gt-4 brake combo. but it was just an option. Ridiculous how k sport and willwood only make big brake kits with 6 piston brake calipers for the front, and 4 piston calipers for the rear. and they only fit 17" rims but ya what is offset for stock gt-s celica
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