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post Sep 13, 2008 - 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Aug 8, 2008 - 3:30 PM) *
thats alright

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how would i go about modding my ACIS?

rather than tell you how to mod it heres a way how not to mod it smile.gif
http://toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t...;highlight=ACIS

(also I recommend a new thread for 3SGE ACIS/Beams discussion)



I've been playing around with ACIS recently and I've discovered a few things about it,

The basics ... when the vacuum diaphragm pulls the throttles, the larger diameter in the corner of the inlet pipes open up (under the lid) for high rpm and when there is no vacuum to pull the throttles are free to return to the constricted low rpm position.

A few problems noted with ACIS:

1. When switching between high and low rpm modes, the vacuum diaphragm sometimes get stuck in the high rpm mode
2. The engage point is too late

First experiment was to see how the car behaved with the throttle pull lever tied up with cable ties as to lock the throttles in the high rpm position,

What I observed with the butt dyno was that under full throttle the rpm range where the car would "suddenly get up and go" was lower down, noticed in terms of road speed 65kph before, 55kph after (2nd gear) so in other words 5000-7000 was the get up and go range, without ACIS constriction in the intake the get up and go range was observed from 4000 to 7000.

No loss in acceleration was noticed from idle to 3000 under part throttle, but loss was noticed under full throttle, between 3000 and 4000 I couldn't tell either way in neither part throttle nor full throttle whether ACIS was better in low rpm or high rpm mode....

This suggests to me that 4000 is a better changeover point than 4800 for performance. 4800 is an rpm not reached by normal driving due to speed limits & gear selection thus ACIS seems to exist for the purpose of keeping intake noise down at legal road speeds rather than for improving low rpm torque as midrange torque takes a hit with this setup.

My proposed solution on how TO mod the ACIS, is to gutt the vacuum actuator system and replace it with a motorised cable pulling actuator triggered by a frequency switch relay at 4000 rpm the signal could be obtained by the ignitor right behind there.


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post Nov 2, 2024 - 8:46 PM
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castings for the redtop/greytop and dual vvt-i blacktop manual trans head are the same. To my understanding. you cant use blacktop cams in a redtop cylinder head because the exhaust cams lobes are way wider due to the 3mm larger diameter blacktop buckets.

the tuning that Toyota did for the Altezza engine. https://www.trdparts.jp/parts/archive/parts...gine-3s-ge.html

note: the camshaft design made by bad beams fb group is the same duration as what TRD used in the cylinder head (Altezza), with the exception of lift spec.

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