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 Mar 17, 2012 - 10:51 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%)  |
well i think im going to change plans. Now im going to build a hybrid 3MZ bottom end with 1MZ heads. this will allow me to get past the smog guys. they wont know its a 3MZ block. plus it will make much more HP.
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1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Mar 18, 2012 - 10:27 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 4, '12 From US Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
The 3MZ should also be stronger no?
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Mar 19, 2012 - 10:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i dont think its much stronger, but it will make more HP
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1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Mar 19, 2012 - 8:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
1MZ heads with port work?
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Mar 19, 2012 - 10:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i would love to have them ported. ill look into it
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Mar 20, 2012 - 11:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '10 From Jax Beach, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
wow, I gotta try this one day
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Mar 20, 2012 - 11:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE (m2736185 @ Mar 20, 2012 - 11:09 PM)  wow, I gotta try this one day Go for it man its not nearly as scary as it might look time for the v6 to take over!! -------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235  n |
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Mar 21, 2012 - 11:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
thats right! the V6 will over power the 3S-GTE
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Dec 21, 2013 - 5:09 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 17, 2012 - 7:51 AM) well i think im going to change plans. Now im going to build a hybrid 3MZ bottom end with 1MZ heads. this will allow me to get past the smog guys. they wont know its a 3MZ block. plus it will make much more HP. enlighten me on this. how would they not know? -------------------- |
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 20, '13 From Cal Bay Area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Dec 21, 2013 - 5:09 AM) QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 17, 2012 - 7:51 AM) well i think im going to change plans. Now im going to build a hybrid 3MZ bottom end with 1MZ heads. this will allow me to get past the smog guys. they wont know its a 3MZ block. plus it will make much more HP. enlighten me on this. how would they not know? The blocks are so similar in design that it would take an expert to see the difference. The smog tech is mostly looking for things on or attached to the head anyway, so it would be almost miraculous if they managed to notice "somethin dont look right" with the block itself. I removed my engine and had it sitting around for weeks before I happened upon a tiny stamp on the block that says "3s". It was a 3sfe replacement block, not the 5sfe I thought I was removing. Sure there was subtle differences that I could have noticed If I was an expert, but with all the old 5s head and accessories and parts on it... I'd have never noticed if it wasn't for that tiny stamp way down in there. |
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Dec 21, 2013 - 12:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
its not as easy to see the stamp on the S series, however right in the front is a big casting that says 3MZ so i hope i can cover it up somehow.
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Dec 21, 2013 - 1:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
Hmmm....now that's interesting. I'd think the obd2 scan will be able to pick it up.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 8:10 PM
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 21, 2013 - 11:48 AM) its not as easy to see the stamp on the S series, however right in the front is a big casting that says 3MZ so i hope i can cover it up somehow. Grind it off to a blank plate and paint the block gray. -------------------- |
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Dec 21, 2013 - 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Dec 21, 2013 - 1:55 PM) Hmmm....now that's interesting. I'd think the obd2 scan will be able to pick it up. i doubt it would. it doesn't tell you that it's a different block or that it's a 3.3L instead of a 3.0L. the block is basically the same as a 1mz, it just has larger pistons. |
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Dec 22, 2013 - 1:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Dec 21, 2013 - 8:04 PM) QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Dec 21, 2013 - 1:55 PM) Hmmm....now that's interesting. I'd think the obd2 scan will be able to pick it up. i doubt it would. it doesn't tell you that it's a different block or that it's a 3.3L instead of a 3.0L. the block is basically the same as a 1mz, it just has larger pistons. Smaay, how was the wiring done? Was there more mod that needed to be done compared to a straight 1mzfe block and head? -------------------- |
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Dec 22, 2013 - 1:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
No he's running all 1mz sensors.
-------------------- 95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy
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Dec 22, 2013 - 1:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Dec 22, 2013 - 10:29 AM) No he's running all 1mz sensors. That's cool. I doubt I'll do a hybrid like smaays because of my budget. Lol. Would be nice though. -------------------- |
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Dec 22, 2013 - 2:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
its not the hybrid 3MZ block with 1MZ heads anymore. Its all 3MZ engine. I just dont have VVT control. im using a 2000 Camry MT ECU right now but ill be using a 97 soon. I need to source a 97 harness.
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Dec 22, 2013 - 3:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 23, '11 From kenton ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
96 harness will work with the 97 ecu too smaay
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99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's 94 st hatch my daily driver http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235 n |
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Dec 22, 2013 - 3:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '12 From Hanford/Fresno, Ca Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 22, 2013 - 11:54 AM) its not the hybrid 3MZ block with 1MZ heads anymore. Its all 3MZ engine. I just dont have VVT control. im using a 2000 Camry MT ECU right now but ill be using a 97 soon. I need to source a 97 harness. what's wrong with the 2000 mt ecu? -------------------- |
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