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Can a mod sticky this thread alreaddy?!
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yeah! sticky!
still looking at rotor options since thats the main concern I believe this is the centric rotor specs for a 2005 Subaru Impreza specs are basically the same as the brz, but this one is a few lbs. lighter ![]() I am searching around for big brake upgrade rotors for the wrx and brz. Stoptech (centric) has a BBk for the WRX but the rotors are too large (328mmx28mm) well actually it seems like alot of the BBK kits for the wrx and brz are 328mm. Id also like to merge a bit of the info from the 5x114 conversion into this thread so that it can show some info for people that would like to switch hubs when converting, Ill also have to add the possible rotors for that too. Rico will be a good source of info for that. AP racing has a 2 piece rotor with pretty good dimensions but the thickness may be 1mm too much ![]() also here is a list of cars with a 5x100 bolt pattern. maybe we can find another option out of the list (for some reason out cars were omitted from this list, i grabbed it from vwvortex) The best possible options will probably come from turbocharged compacts. Non-turbod compacts dont seem to have much over 270mm 2000-2006 Audi TT (4 cyl.) 2000-2006 Audi TT (4 cyl.) Quattro 2000-2006 Audi TT (V6) 1980-1998 Buick Skylark 1989-1996 Chevrolet Beretta 1982-2005 Chevrolet Cavalier 1989-1996 Chevrolet Corsica 1995-2001 Chrysler Cirrus 1988-1993 Chrysler Fifth Avenue (FWD) 1988-1993 Chrysler New Yorker 2001-2010 Chrysler PT Cruiser 1996-2006 Chrysler Sebring Convertible 2001-2006 Chrysler Sebring Sedan 1986-2000 Dodge Caravan 1990-1995 Dodge Caravan (AWD) 1984-1993 Dodge Daytona 1988-1993 Dodge Dynasty 1996-2000 Dodge Grand Caravan 1994-2006 Dodge Neon 2003-2006 Dodge Neon SRT 4 1980-1994 Dodge Omni GLH 1980-1994 Dodge Shadow 1980-1994 Dodge Spirit 1995-2007 Dodge Stratus Sedan 2001-2007 Dodge Stratus R/T Sedan 1990-1991 Lexus ES 250 1992-1997 Oldsmobile Achieva 1992-1997 Oldsmobile Achieva S 1992-1997 Oldsmobile Achieva SC 1992-1997 Oldsmobile Achieva SL 1982-1991 Oldsmobile Calais 1982-1991 Oldsmobile Ciera 1982-1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass 1982-1988 Oldsmobile Firenza 1980-1985 Oldsmobile Omega 1984-1988 Pontiac Fiero 1984-1988 Pontiac Fiero GT 1986-1998 Pontiac Grand Am 1985-1994 Pontiac Sunbird 1995-2005 Pontiac Sunfire 2003-2008 Pontiac Vibe 2009 Pontiac Vibe 1.8 2005-2006 Saab 9-2X 2005-2010 Scion TC 2008-2011 Scion XD 2008-2009 Scion XD TRD 1997-2011 Subaru Forester 1993-2009 Subaru Impreza 2002-2009 Subaru Impreza WRX 2003-2004 Subaru Impreza STI 2010-2011 Subaru Impreza 2.5 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX 2003-2010 Toyota Corolla 2002-2009 Toyota Matrix 2009 Toyota Matrix S 2010 Toyota Matrix Base 2004-2011 Toyota Prius 2006-2009 Toyota Prius Touring 1998-2010 Volkswagen Beetle 1998-2009 Volkswagen Beetle turbo 1993 Volkswagen Corrado SLC (V6) 1993-1998 Volkswagen Golf III GTI 1993-1998 Volkswagen Golf III VR6 1993-1998 Volkswagen Golf VR6 1999-2005 Volkswagen Golf IV 1999-2005 Volkswagen Golf TDI 2004 Volkswagen Golf R32 1999-2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T 1999-2005 Volkswagen GTI VR6 1993-1998 Volkswagen Jetta III GLX 1995-1998 Volkswagen Jetta III VR6 1999-2005 Volkswagen Jetta IV (4 cyl.) 1999-2005 Volkswagen Jetta IV VR6 1992-1997 Volkswagen Passat VR6 This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Mar 28, 2014 - 1:51 PM -------------------- ![]() 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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Can a mod sticky this thread alreaddy?! ![]() Added to the stickies. -------------------- "Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us to use the search button!
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with a 5x14 hub change, just use oem supra rotors...
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That's interesting... Yeah I was suggesting a replacement for the rears that perhaps we could find local to us. Ah gotchya. I think the 205 rears are out best bet. The only downsides of that rotor are the spacing of the caliper and the ebrake shoe only has half contact on the inner drum. Those arent really terrible downsides in my eyes. the company in the UK that I have listed in the OP ships super fast with tracking too ![]() I will keep my eyes open for any rotors that look like a match to the 205 rears Yeah you guys have it great. In my case, it's 320 just for shipping, which is 4x as much as shipping anywhere in the US. This is stupid XD -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
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ship it to me on the east coast and then Ill ship it to you! It would probably be a heck of alot cheaper
with a 5x14 hub change, just use oem supra rotors... BOOM. Ill have to ask rico what he did for the rears again for his hub change -------------------- ![]() 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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5x114 swap only works if you don't have AWD
![]() I need to find 5x114 hubs / rotors that will work for AWD oh and still no 2-piece for the supra rotors ![]() This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 29, 2014 - 11:56 AM |
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ship it to me on the east coast and then Ill ship it to you! It would probably be a heck of alot cheaper I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. 5x114 swap only works if you don't have AWD ![]() I need to find 5x114 hubs / rotors that will work for AWD oh and still no 2-piece for the supra rotors ![]() Well, if you think about it, if it's already AWD it already has GT-Four brakes which would make this thread pointless for whoever's doing it. BUT doing the 5x114.3 hub swap might just be a redrill deal.. -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
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Unless you have my car or a few others here who have/are doing AWD swaps and keeping McPherson suspension..
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Unless you have my car or a few others here who have/are doing AWD swaps and keeping McPherson suspension.. But then what I said wouldn't apply, because it's not "already AWD". lol -------------------- 1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold
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Id also like to merge a bit of the info from the 5x114 conversion into this thread so that it can show some info for people that would like to switch hubs when converting, Ill also have to add the possible rotors for that too. Rico will be a good source of info for that. Man oh man do I have a lot of information to add! -------------------- |
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FACTORY SPECS:
![]() FYI: MODEL________YEAR_____BOLT PATTERN_________STUD SIZE______HUB/CENTER BORE_______OFFSET CELICA_______86-96________5x100______________12x1.5____________54.1_______H CAMRY_______92-UP________5x114.3_____________12x1.5____________60.1______H CAMRY/solara__99-UP_______5x114.3_____________12x1.5_____________60.1______H RAV4_________96-UP________5x114.3____________12x1.5_____________60.1______H Rotor Options: FRONT: 93-99 Toyota Supra NON-Turbo ![]() REAR options: 93-99 Toyota Supra NON-Turbo ![]() *Height too large at 67.35mm? *Stock GT4 is 59, GT is 65 2003-2012 Infiniti fx35 ![]() * Hub size 6mm too big, bolt size 12.7, should be 14.5 2010-2013 Lexus RX350 ![]() *Nom Thick, should be 16 (6mm too small) BEST OPTION (IMO), and what I will be running: 2002-2010 Lexus SC430/ 01-05 Lexus is300/ 95-05 gs300 / 98-00 gs400 / 01-05 GS430 ![]() *Nom thick, should be 16mm, 4mm off - Do not see this as an issue *Hat height of 63.3 should allow for proper contact of GT E-Brake shoes. Stock GT4 hat height is 59 (reported issues of only 1/2 of E-Brake making contact) and standard GT hat height is 65. -------------------- |
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thanks rico!
Ill add that stuff tomorrow. You've fit the rears on already right? The smaller diameters of those options you listed compared to the 315mm GT4 rotors seems like it could be an issue. 6-9mm seems to be the range of difference from what you've listed. It isnt MUCH but its something. -------------------- ![]() 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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Wouldn't the mkiv supra hub work in the rear for the awd knuckle on the celica?.. Honestly I don't know. It comes down to shape/splines/thickness and there aren't diagram/measurements on the internet like there are for rotors. That and usually only the Dealer sells them and for not cheap. QUOTE 2002-2010 Lexus SC430/ 01-05 Lexus is300/ 95-05 gs300 / 98-00 gs400 / 01-05 GS430 This looks like a pretty good option for rear rotors and a 5x114 GT4 rear brake conversion |
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QUOTE 2002-2010 Lexus SC430/ 01-05 Lexus is300/ 95-05 gs300 / 98-00 gs400 / 01-05 GS430 This looks like a pretty good option for rear rotors and a 5x114 GT4 rear brake conversion the 8mm difference from the ST205 315mm concerns me. What do you think? My setup with the 315mm ST205 rotors has the pads right at the edge of the rotor the rotors are thinner than the ST205's because the 205rears are vented. just a remark. This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Apr 2, 2014 - 11:22 AM -------------------- ![]() 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
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Mr2 rear hubs is another option... For awd
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^some how I completely missed the concept of an MR2 rear hub
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just thinking about this the other day and how that these smaller diameter rotors will change the braking bias of the car. I cant say for certain to what extent though. My F:300 and R:315 is a great balance. Its possible that a few MM's off the front might not make too much of a difference. Just thinking out loud
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I'll be ordering Rav4 Hubs, bearings, poopra rotors shortly for mine. Even though I'm selling. I have these big calipers and have been meaning to do this for a LONG time. Props to Tigawoods for the good info. I only last year discovered the Rav4 hub swap which totally changed the game for this. Fortunately, my Tenzo R DC5 wheels are a dual 5 x 100 and 5 x 114.3 bolt pattern.
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