3S-GE ACIS/Beams discussion, Discussion about ACIS, TVIS, VVT-i, etc. applicable to 3S-GE motors Options

[Rusty]

Sounds like you're splitting hairs 0.8PS (Pferdestärke) is 0.8HP or 0.588kw. Also 15-11=8.82 just stick to 1 form of measurement


Did you ever get your Celica dyno'd Bonzai to see what your base power is and go from there? So you know roughly what your gains are when you do buy & install some parts for your beams.

When I installed the Tom's ecu I got a print out of the O2 readings from the exhaust. No since we have never had some sort of smog checking, I can't really compare my results to others locally. Would be interesting to compare - if it is comparable, to people in the States

[BonzaiCelica]

Nope. I don't plan to do any dyno unless it's real cheap. And adding other engine parts isn't realistic. Got other plans. I was just putting the info so people know what to expect. With a full system.

Oh yea sorry. I just fixed that post ��

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 10, 2016 - 2:28 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

Not a new product or anything. But companies like technotoytuning and battle garage offer individual throttle body set up for beams motors that's actually compatible with 4age blacktop. Im just not sure if a whole kit is bolt on per say.

[BonzaiCelica]

Camshafts for Beams Redtop. $800 for camshaft (4-5weeks production time) and $315 for springs n' retainers. However there are no dyno graphs or CFM value to justify why they sell those cam profiles

OEM Spec for Camshaft duration (IN/EX) - 256°/244° (advertised duration) (Unknown) @ 1mm lift / (Unknown) @ 0.050in. lift Camshaft lift: (IN/EX) - 10.5mm/9.2mm (TRD used to sell cams for Redtop motor as mentioned by Pheonix on this forum) however not sure why it isnt listed in 2002 TRD catalog.

http://www.catcams.com/engines/camshaft-setup.aspx

Toda Racing High compression pistons and Forged connecting rods.
https://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/product/pi...sg-iconrod.html $1280
https://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/product/pi...sg-sxe10hi.html $720

Racing Main/Rod Bearings and Thrust Washers
https://jdtracing.com/products/acl-bundle-r...5W5A_CPREHihTmQ

Lower Oil Pan spacer for increased oil capacity. MR2 heaven will soon release weld on baffles
https://mr2heaven.com/products/gen3-4-5-3sg...es-oil-capacity

TRD made an second oil pan with larger oil capacity along with baffles built in and offered spacers for the oil pick up. This is probably where mr2 heaven got the idea from.
https://www.trdparts.jp/parts/archive/parts...gine-3s-ge.html

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Today, 06:16 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

updates on performance parts for 3SGE

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 25, 2017 - 7:11 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

bump. for tuning parts....

[BonzaiCelica]

The camshafts that can be used while still retaining VVT-i are these.....

http://www.catcams.com/products/camshafts/...AMSETUP_id=2410

Please note that you have to check the lower valve seat if the lift is
more then 11.2 mm
Also check the clearance between the valve seal and the retainer like
mentioned on the data sheet.

You also have to change the springs and retainers to use this cams.

[BonzaiCelica]

someone delete this.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 25, 2024 - 8:57 PM

[Rusty]

While over the ditch, NZ make these custom ones...

They can do 45mm, 48mm or 50mm






Not sure on price. But gen 3 owners could use their lower intake runners, and possibly a small adaptor bracket between that and the itb's

[BonzaiCelica]

I think this is a 120 degree angle, but only because it was fitted into a newer corolla that originally had an 1ZZ motor. While the one you picture looks like a 90 degree bend.

IMG-20171130-WA0003 by Justin Towers, on Flickr
IMG-20171130-WA0001 by Justin Towers, on FlickrIMG-20171109-WA0001 by Justin Towers, on Flickr
IMG-20170306-WA0005 by Justin Towers, on Flickr

pics of how cat cams come in the mail

IMG-20180329-WA0004 by Justin Towers, on Flickr

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 15, 2022 - 1:22 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

Valve Clearance Spec for 3SGE Beams Redtop


Intake .17-27mm
Exhaust: .32-.42mm

upgrading your transaxle to the 1994-1995 E56 trans gearing and swapping out final drives from the 96-2000 RAV4:

Increase in torque from 4.176 - 4.529 is 9.24%.
Increase in torque from 4.176 - 4.933 is 18.14%

Which means a 4.933 final drive in your E56 transaxle will gain 27 ft lb torque + 152 ft lb (engine torque) = 179 ft lb tq

more details here in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3F5238fco

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 15, 2023 - 1:01 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

MAF intake adapter
https://www.driftmotion.com/2JZGTE-VVTi-MAF...pe-p/dm3584.htm

Manifold flange with enlarged exhaust ports for those that plan on doing proper cylinder headwork
https://www.sq-engineering.com/product/3sge...1QQm4nx2w817u3o

3sge Beams motors have an intake manifold thermal spacer. something that is not found on Honda's B18C or K20A motors.

Furthermore the Beams has an improved PCV system over gen 3 design. This allow crankcase pressure to remain much lower and not push as much oil out the valve cover. These improvements were carried over to the 4th gen 3SG-TE platform

despite better PCV system. blow by still occurs and oil puddles inside the intake manifold. Would recommend an catch can set up.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Today, 01:38 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

someone is detailing the conversion of Altezza motor into a FWD setup. https://www.mr2oc.com/threads/3s-ge-beams-b...rite-up.693735/

was told 70-72mm throttle body is a great addition to a set of more aggressive cams. however i have not seen any dyno graphs to confirm this and was told larger throttle body opening wont help much in the way of more air flow. the runners openings on the oem intake manifold are too narrow and restrict velocity into cylinder head

the Caldina Greytop (auto spec only) was produced until 2002

Benefits of Dual VVT-i motor over single vvt-i redtop:
Better flowing intake manifold, higher compression, exhaust vvt-i (greater flat torque curve), larger valves and more aggressive camshaft profile.

As Far as cooling is concerned, I was told by a member who has an ST185 Celica; that his oem koyorad radiator kept engine cool on track up to 400hp. better than the dual core alloy radiator. The OEM fans are quite large and flow a lot of cfm, but come close to contacting the oem exhaust manifold. Keep your OEM (Koyo brand plastic tank header and footer) and upgrade to SPAL IX-30101522 fans.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Today, 05:40 AM