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> 20V 4A-GE Swap Done!
post Mar 9, 2004 - 11:29 AM
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amazing...


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post Mar 9, 2004 - 11:43 AM
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Looks really nice - congrats coomer!


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post Mar 9, 2004 - 3:16 PM
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Congrats Chris. Feels good, don't it? I'm REALLY REALLY happy for you bud! Now all we need is a West Coast Celi meet. biggrin.gif
post Mar 9, 2004 - 3:45 PM
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QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Mar 9, 2004 - 1:16 PM)
Congrats Chris. Feels good, don't it? I'm REALLY REALLY happy for you bud! Now all we need is a West Coast Celi meet. biggrin.gif

I've been waiting for that ever since i joined this site. Lets hope we can set that up this summer.

Oh and btw i still love the car looks even better everytime i look at the pics.

David
post Mar 9, 2004 - 4:25 PM
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CC (http://www.corollacustomz.com) has a "NW chapter" (more like just a bunch of us who haven't actually started a chapter, per say) will be holding yet another NW Toyota meet.... last time we invited SEVERAL toyota boards (CC, corolla-racing, club4ag, mr2 pages, supra pages, and some old school sites).... coomer was actually there (didn't have his car, though)... and it was a good turnout (like 30 odd cars)... not bad on a rainy day!

we will be holding another one this summer.... we're thinking either just another show type meet, or possibly going to a shop with a dyno and having a dyno/show type meet.....
post Mar 9, 2004 - 5:58 PM
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wow.

I want to attend. I want to get my car dyno'ed anyways.
post Mar 9, 2004 - 6:51 PM
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You know I'm down for sure. I'd love to go. biggrin.gif


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post Mar 9, 2004 - 7:35 PM
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congrats coomer !
did you still have to pay for the swap ?
good luck

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post Mar 9, 2004 - 8:20 PM
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did you get any discounts for the delay?

what about the paint damage?


looks great man, post a sound clip! smile.gif
post Mar 9, 2004 - 10:54 PM
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Only high 15s?


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post Mar 9, 2004 - 11:25 PM
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QUOTE (snadman @ Mar 10, 2004 - 3:54 AM)
Only high 15s?

Although they're great motors with a lot of potential... they're highly overstated with the HP ratings. Rated at 160... although actually closer to 140-150... Also... a lot of the Corolla guys only run mid-high 15's with their swaps in stock trim...


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post Mar 9, 2004 - 11:29 PM
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high 15's thats what im getting now..... with my GT
post Mar 9, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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hey commer, i have a question, you might have answered it somewhere, but why did you go with the 4a swap compared to the 3s-gte.. i mean about the same hassle, and around the same cost right?? well the 3s might have been sorter time.. but the 3s has alot more power.. i mean shouldnt the 3s-gte run about 14 stock or so?? an your's your hoping to run mid 15's... seems like a hella lot of work for only that kinda speed... an i know i know... these arnt track cars but every one likes to take off real fast...
post Mar 10, 2004 - 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (PaulGT @ Mar 10, 2004 - 4:29 AM)
high 15's thats what im getting now..... with my GT

Did you actually run it, or are you just guesstimating? It's a world of difference....

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hey commer, i have a question, you might have answered it somewhere, but why did you go with the 4a swap compared to the 3s-gte.. i mean about the same hassle, and around the same cost right?? well the 3s might have been sorter time.. but the 3s has alot more power.. i mean shouldnt the 3s-gte run about 14 stock or so?? an your's your hoping to run mid 15's... seems like a hella lot of work for only that kinda speed... an i know i know... these arnt track cars but every one likes to take off real fast...


There are greater things in an engine than turbos, power, or speed. It's proven... just look at club4ag. The n/a 4AGE will never be an all-out power motor, nor will it ever be powerful and torquey as big turbocharged motors are, but it has a dedicated following that rivals even the American muscle generation. So what does it have? Enjoyment! The 4AGs still have a cult following to this day, for nearly 20 years, not because they're the fastest, or most powerful, or anything like that. Simply because they're very very enjoyable to drive. Speed doesn't matter when something is fun to drive, tune, revv, build, etc. The 3SGTE will probably never have that in this day and age, because of the fads that are out there in today's pop-culture. All in all... Coomer probably wasn't looking for an engine swap that can make him go faster, and get more speeding tickets. I don't speak for him, but as for me, I'd go with a 20V 4AGE because it's just a joy to drive around...


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1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
post Mar 10, 2004 - 12:08 AM
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I think he just wanted something a bit more able-bodied than the 7AFE with more potential...and also to be unique in doing a swap not too many 6gc owners have tried.


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95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE

02 WRX --> This is for speed
- Borla Exhaust
- TurboXS BOV
- Custom CAI

02 Civic EX
- MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components
- Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors
- Alpine Type S Rear Fills
- 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box
- Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors
- Alpine M605 on each Type R
- Phoenix Gold wiring
- Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit
- Alpine Amp link
- 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps
- The best Viper 791 alarm install ever
post Mar 10, 2004 - 12:19 AM
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What was the final swap cost?
post Mar 10, 2004 - 1:20 AM
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Actually Coomer swapped the 4A-GE because his parents wouldn't let him have turbo, if you read the "feasible engine swaps" thread, written by coomer, he says the 3S is the engine to swap, bottom line. Unless you have other restrictions.

I get to have a 3S-GTE because my parents dont know anything about cars... otherwise I probably wouldnt get turbo either.
post Mar 10, 2004 - 1:46 AM
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I did still have to pay for the swap. The labor, along with more parts, including the belts(alternator and accessory), MSD Blaster coil, air filter and piping and hose couplers and clamps, oil, oil filters, tranny oil, external power steering reservoir, and a bunch of other stuff costed me $800.

The main reason why I went 4A-GE rather than 3S-GTE was because of my parents and my insurance situation. They pay for my insurance, and since the insurance we have doesn't allow anything with forced induction, my parents wouldn't insure me if I got the 3S-GTE or 4A-GZE. And before the "You just could have just not told them." comes up, they would've found out one way or another. It's really scary how much they find out about my friends and I.

And if I had the 3S-GTE, I seriously think that I'd get in so much trouble. wink.gif I'm already getting crazy with the 4A-GE, but if I get one more ticket, I'm pretty sure that I'll get dropped from insurance, which would not be good.

Also, I absolutely love the AE101 4A-GE. biggrin.gif Not only is the sound really sweet, but after 4,000 RPM, the car just takes off with what feels like a lot of power. I couldn't even imagine riding in a sixth generation Celica with a 3S-GTE. smile.gif

It's probably just me, but my car feels faster than the two third generation Integra GS-Rs that I've driven, and they're supposed to be pretty quick, so I'll see how I do on the track sometime soon hopefully.

And maybe over spring break I can get a video together for you guys to enjoy. smile.gif

As far as final swap cost, it's right around $2,500. smile.gif


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post Mar 10, 2004 - 11:35 AM
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$2500 isnt bad at all, but 6 month wait kinda sucks.
post Mar 10, 2004 - 12:26 PM
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wow, for all the belts, coolant, tranny fluid, seals, oil, oil filter etc etc I'm paying 2,200... Damn good deal even if they did take months to do it. And the 2,200 dosnt even include exhaust piping or the IC I need to get.

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