 Goodbye 6GC, Got a del Sol Si |
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 Apr 7, 2004 - 12:58 AM
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How about you do some research...? Del Sols are light... but not for their size. They weigh in the 2500 pound neighborhood (moderately loaded SI models) and that, is heavier than a Civic hatchback, which is between 2100-2400 pounds depending on trim (EG Civic hatchback models) Coupes weigh roughly 50-60 pounds more. A 6gc Celica, which is far larger, weighs between 2400-2600. Yes, they do have shorter geared trannies, which make better use of their power, but that was never a question. Bringing it up is pointless. As far as I can tell, aside from the stupid fawks who said stupid things, no one has bashed the Del Sol. Overall... the Del Sol is a nice little car... impractical, but nice. The SI trim isn't exactly what I'd choose, but if the owner is happy with it, that's all that matters. It has its ups and downs, in terms of performance, but when compared vs. a 6th gen, It far surpasses in terms of aftermarket support. IMO, honda makes the best n/a engines... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 2:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '04 From bellingham, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
*offtopic* pppphhhhhttttt... have you completely forgotten about the 20R, the 22R, and the 18rg's?! they could be built for boost.... or you can bore those things out like it's nothing... and for some reason they NEVER die..... and although it's not the greatest these days... the 4ag's are still pretty potent n/a motors (including the smallport, the silvertop, and the blacktops) |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 2:33 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
heheh... we should stay on topic... but I'll have to disagree. The old R series has its limits... which are far far sooner than a built K20A or B18C or F20 any day... ;] and these engine will shine on the track, where it matters most. HP per liter anyone?... not meaning the 20R/22Rs don't match up... but those things are old-school. You're beginning to sound like the biased toyota-only kids on here... ;] -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 6:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '04 From bellingham, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yep... guilty although.... for n/a purposes... honda has been able to build great high revving motors & transmissions to gear it correctly..... but come on.... i drove my 4a-fe with a blown head gasket for over 3,000 miles... and at the end it had been about 7,000 miles since an oil change (still wasn't low)..... along with that, my old tranny when i broke it... i was able to drive over 100 miles w/o any first or 2nd gear.... i can't not go toyota after those experiences, lol |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 8:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I guess I have to put in my own 2 cents in this. I have a friend that owns a 93 Del Sol with a little 1.5 l engine. It can hold its own against mine stock. The Del Sol is a finely manufactured vehicle but I do hate them. Honda can make decent cars but they are not as good nor as finely manufactured as Toyota. Phat_Boi I give you credit for trying to find a fast car, but you just sucked all of the fun out of owning a car. You are just like all of the old people that buy the stupid RX8's. They want power fast with out any work. Half of the fun of the Celica is working on it (even though most of our cars dont need work, we do it for the fun and to make it a little bit faster) Kudos on the purchase but I'm sorry I hate what you bought. In a way you did sell out but hey, you got what you want and thats all that matters. Have fun with your new car and keep in touch. Peace.
Cody *EDIT* Sorry when I said "mine" I meant my Celica.  God I swear I am retarded some times.
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Apr 7, 2004 - 10:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No doubt toyota makes a rock solid engine... but that doesn't mean Honda does not. Take VTEC for example... moving pins and rockers in the head, designed to operate at and beyond 6000 rpms, all covered under warantee. Honda has to have a lot of faith in their products. Also consider, Skunk2 has built some of the quickest FF drag cars out of Hondas (10-11 seconds n/a BABY!), with stock cranks that live up to and beyond 10,000 rpms. In a daily driver... they should last as long as toyotas... albeit, Hondas do tend to drink oil after a while (200k miles long while). Maybe in the old days, pre OBD1... they weren't as reliable as Toyotas... but now a days, they're just as reliable. If you look at all of the new low-maintence engines, both Toyota and Honda have gone with timing chains, which eliminate a very large engine maintenece hassle... I too have a history with Toyotas... 300K miles on a 3AC AE82 rolla... a truck that's still hualing junk after 20 years, running perfect with the immortal 22R, and various others. My family is strictly toyota... but I'm not ignorant enough to say that makes toyota the absolute best, or would make me look down on other makes and models. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Apr 8, 2004 - 12:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Kwanza26- the voice of reason and truth when it comes to technical stuff... lol
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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Apr 8, 2004 - 9:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 12, '04 From Hellburbia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
sell the Si and get the Si VTEC!
hehe, it won't matter if you are swapping in a B18C1 (GSR motor) anyways. Good luck with the del sol, i love them. --------------------  |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 1:26 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '03 From SoCal Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Maybe someday your del sol will be as cool as this one
Cool Del Sol |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 2:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '03 From Portland, OR Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
screw it all man. LOL, just go out and buy an MR2. Haha. Just kidding. Although style wise, they're both somewhat similar, but I'm not sure about performance and weight and all that. But definite congrats on the Del Sol. I always did like those cars. I'd say that and the Prelude are the only hondas I'd be caught dead in.
 Have fun, and definitely stick around the forums and put some pics up. It's good stuff.
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Apr 9, 2004 - 3:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haha.... what a geek... thats still cool though... --------------------  |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 3:57 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
LOL. I think this picture explains a lot 
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Apr 9, 2004 - 4:05 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
That guy is so cool. He's my hero. I hope one day my car can be that cool. 
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Apr 9, 2004 - 5:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I hope that isn't sarcastic. That guy gains a lot of respect from me for his innovation. That car is something that everyone should respect, not because that Star Wars is for dorks or whatever the stereotype is but that someone had the brilliance to do that themselves. That and he really really butched that Honda
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Apr 9, 2004 - 6:27 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think its awesome just because of the butchered Honda. That dude is like the ultimate nerd but I give him some serious kudos for that car.
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Apr 9, 2004 - 6:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the interior is SICK
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Apr 10, 2004 - 2:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 22, '04 From bellingham, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no comparison between a del sol vtec and an mr2 turbo..... mr2 is probably the same weight, but mid engine RWD.... MUCH bettter for handling.... and a b16 would have no chance against a 3s-gte but that star wars del sol.... holy ****.... i give that guy credit.... he dropped some serious money into that project and paid attention to detail...... that geek has done more in his geekdom than like 90% of people in most the online forums i'm on have done to their cars, lol |
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Apr 10, 2004 - 4:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 23, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
OMG just to think I was at a junkyard one day and passed up a car just like that, except it had a bit more rust...
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Apr 15, 2004 - 8:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 15, '04 From saskatoon, sk Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i hope one day i can own a suit that cool |
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Apr 15, 2004 - 9:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
But in green with gator boots to match
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