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> want some quick info, ST-182, wich years, an power ratings
post Apr 19, 2004 - 6:27 PM
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The ST-182 is the 92, modle, i was wounder what the figures of power was, im getign a littl ecounfused. In engine swaps, it talks about the 6th gen 3s-ge wich produces 177hp, an 155 trq, does the ST-182 3s-ge produce the same.?? Thanks for any help
post Apr 19, 2004 - 7:13 PM
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ive tried getting the same info- but with difficlties... from the best of my knowledge early 182's had 161 hp, and later models the same as the 6th gen, 177hp...


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post Apr 19, 2004 - 7:15 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 19, 2004 - 11:27 PM)
The ST-182 is the 92, modle, i was wounder what the figures of power was, im getign a littl ecounfused. In engine swaps, it talks about the 6th gen 3s-ge wich produces 177hp, an 155 trq, does the ST-182 3s-ge produce the same.?? Thanks for any help

No... the ST182 uses a different version of the 3SGE (slightly less compression, TVIS, slightly less agressive cams, different intake ports... etc...) 160-170 hp if I remember correctly...


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post Apr 19, 2004 - 7:35 PM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Apr 20, 2004 - 12:15 AM)
QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 19, 2004 - 11:27 PM)
The  ST-182 is the 92, modle, i was wounder what the figures of power was, im getign a littl ecounfused. In engine swaps, it talks about the 6th gen 3s-ge wich produces 177hp, an 155 trq, does the ST-182 3s-ge produce the same.?? Thanks for any help

No... the ST182 uses a different version of the 3SGE (slightly less compression, TVIS, slightly less agressive cams, different intake ports... etc...) 160-170 hp if I remember correctly...

ok with that info, would it help or do anything, if i were to swap the intake manifold, an tvis system from a 3s-gte, and possible cams from a 3s-gte. I know I should just tyr an get a 3s-gte, but im just looking for more power, not a ton, not to run quarter miles, really around 170-180 would be perfect, i mean, my buddie has the delsol vtec an thats almost a good enough of power for me, so i was just looking to do a little more with this engine, thanks alot for the info.

Doug
post Apr 19, 2004 - 8:04 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 20, 2004 - 12:35 AM)
ok with that info, would it help or do anything, if i were to swap the intake manifold, an tvis system from a 3s-gte, and possible cams from a 3s-gte. I know I should just tyr an get a 3s-gte, but im just looking for more power, not a ton, not to run quarter miles, really around 170-180 would be perfect, i mean, my buddie has the delsol vtec an thats almost a good enough of power for me, so i was just looking to do a little more with this engine, thanks alot for the info.

Doug

The n/a 3SGE might actually have slightly more sgressive cams stock than a 3SGTE. As for TVIS... it doesn't make a huge difference. It's a system that increases intake velocity, which makes for better low-end response. It has little to do with overall and top-end power. Swapping stock manifolds and stock cams won't do anything drastic. If you want more power from a 3SGE... get larger duration/lift cams then tune the car. That's how n/a cars are tuned for more power. Bigger cams will increase the engine's overall performance.


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post Apr 19, 2004 - 8:12 PM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Apr 20, 2004 - 1:04 AM)

The n/a 3SGE might actually have slightly more sgressive cams stock than a 3SGTE. As for TVIS... it doesn't make a huge difference. It's a system that increases intake velocity, which makes for better low-end response. It has little to do with overall and top-end power. Swapping stock manifolds and stock cams won't do anything drastic. If you want more power from a 3SGE... get larger duration/lift cams then tune the car. That's how n/a cars are tuned for more power. Bigger cams will increase the engine's overall performance.

wow, thanks, seems like you know alot about these engines, doy uo have any idea, where i might be able to find cams, or any aftermarket parts for the 3s-ge. If looked around, an anything i really find, is in jap, or somthing, thanks
post Apr 19, 2004 - 8:16 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Apr 20, 2004 - 1:12 AM)
QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Apr 20, 2004 - 1:04 AM)

The n/a 3SGE might actually have slightly more sgressive cams stock than a 3SGTE.  As for TVIS... it doesn't make a huge difference.  It's a system that increases intake velocity, which makes for better low-end response.  It has little to do with overall and top-end power.  Swapping stock manifolds and stock cams won't do anything drastic.  If you want more power from a 3SGE... get larger duration/lift cams then tune the car.  That's how n/a cars are tuned for more power.  Bigger cams will increase the engine's overall performance.

wow, thanks, seems like you know alot about these engines, doy uo have any idea, where i might be able to find cams, or any aftermarket parts for the 3s-ge. If looked around, an anything i really find, is in jap, or somthing, thanks

Cams for the 3SGE and the 3SGTE are the same... so basically HKS, Toda, Webcams, Crower, various others all make cams that will work on the engine. The only 3SGE that will be different is the BEAMS version... The 3rd and 4th gen 3SGTEs might be different also... but I'm not sure exactly.


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