 Mr2 turbo vs. celica gt, thinking of getting one... |
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 Apr 24, 2004 - 2:02 PM
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the ONLY ONLY reason to go NA over turbo charged is for the linear powerband. the 3sgte is a very reliable motor, you just have to perform more regular maintanence on it and be more consistant with it. --------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Apr 24, 2004 - 2:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '02 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey good news! i might be getting a mr2 soon and I get to keep the celica. Yay for me. By the way what's a beams engine?
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Apr 24, 2004 - 3:44 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ill forgive ur comment because u obviously dont know wat your talking about. the mk1 mr2 was a fantastic car. the mk 2 however is TERRIBLE (sw20) for some reason u assume all mr cars handle the same. THEY DONT. Youre right mr is the best for road racing, but the mk2 mr2 is a terrible handling car for an mr car and there is no changing that. -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Apr 24, 2004 - 11:01 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I disagree. The SW2 handles very well... Why do YOU say they handle bad? Are you just repeating what some magazine's opinion says... or are you saying that based on first hand experience? IMO... the SW2 mr2's handle very well... I've run our SW21 (n/a MR2) before on various closed trackes, both autocross and even a couple of times rallycross. They have a high learning curve because they heavily oversteer and aren't very predictable under high speed cornering... but when you know how to work that chassi... they handle well. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Apr 25, 2004 - 2:40 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yep its first hand experience, i drove one as it was a choice between the mr2 turbo and the 300zx (my previous car before the gt4). I found that in the mr2 i had to think about preventing from oversteering unpredictably rather than attacking the corner, wheras with the 300zx i could attack the corner and the oversteer was very predictable.
This is the reason I dont like the handling,as a car with mid engine and rear wheel drive it was terrible,maybe i was spoilt by driving an NSX on a track day but it was really not what i expected. Now the mazda mx5, that is a fantastic handling car... This post has been edited by uzthedentist: Apr 25, 2004 - 2:41 AM -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Apr 25, 2004 - 3:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm sure the steep learning curve was mentioned... That's your opinion on the car. That alone doesn't make it a 'terrible' handling car. boostedk2 happens to own one... likewise I too partially own one... so wouldn't our, shall we say expert opinion (considering we've driven the car more that a 'few' times in racing circumstances) out weigh your one-time deal? To me... it seems you're making a biased opinion because your first-time experience with the car wasn't as pleasant nor easy as others. I too didn't like the MR2 handling at first (mine is BASE model n/a hardtop manual EVERYTHING) and it was a pain to lug around in... but after a few go-arounds... I realized was able to take corners at much higher speeds than I could do with my Celica or RX7, both of which I've had countless hours with under the pedal. The MR2 isn't for everybody... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Apr 25, 2004 - 3:22 AM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Apr 25, 2004 - 4:42 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 4, '03 From Twin Cities MN Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
rally cars and MR are a VERY difficiclt mix to achive- not doubt... true- most group B rally machines, and the famous and all conquoring(sp, drunk) lancia stratos, were mid-engine, but they were designed specifacly for rally, somthing the MR2 (up intill stillborn group S) was never intended for... so to rally any mr2 would be pure stupidity... you might as well rally an 83 escort... IMO if you are to race anything off tarmac, the celica is 100 times a better bet...
-------------------- Car #3: 98 Accord LX- purchased 5/06, totaled 8/06
Car #2: 95 Celica GT- purchased 8/03, current daily driver Car #1: 01 Focus ZX3- purchased 5/01, sold 8/03 |
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Apr 25, 2004 - 6:08 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well the original question was that the chap wanted to get a car for general driving and rally, and doesnt want awd because hell be in a more difficult category. why should he give himself a major disadvantage by driving an mr2 in ther rally? if its on tarmac fair enuff. but if he takes it on gravel then hed have a big big disadvantage. Im just warning him.
This post has been edited by uzthedentist: Apr 25, 2004 - 6:09 AM -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Apr 27, 2004 - 1:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 23, '03 From newport news virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
why not just keep your celi scoob? put the 6-8k into it and have one bad ass celica by the way you live right around the corner from me i would be willing to help you out much as possible. tuners edge on warwick can do the swap i think he said for like a grand in labor(3sgte) then go to abacus racing in virginia beach and get the thing tuned up. my swap will be done in august or september by all of the above and i am not too sure if you mean rallye or not but i think the virgina motorsprts park you have in mind does auto cross not rally cross. in that case i dont think the celica will do too badly at all on an auto cross track with the right set of springs and maybe a tri point strut brace from dg performance. cause god knows the 3sgte will lay down the power for you......oops wrong 6gen member......
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Apr 27, 2004 - 1:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Heh... I was about to say... "he's lives on the other side of the country..." hehe... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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