 Import Vs. America Muscle, Kill Story...bye bye bye IROC! |
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 Apr 22, 2004 - 2:51 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 23, '03 From New Orleans Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%)  |
gotta say something had to b wrong w/ his car. no offense
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Apr 22, 2004 - 3:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
did u drive ur celica?
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Apr 22, 2004 - 3:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Carburated 5.0's have 170hp. Fuel injected are 215hp with a 5spd and 190hp with a auto. The car probably weighs about 3400lbs also. Could be a pretty close race.
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Apr 22, 2004 - 5:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
170hp? how big is the engine?
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Apr 22, 2004 - 6:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i raced a 87 IROC too, but he blew my doors off.
i cought him in the S-turn, but after that he was gone. -------------------- Jared Harwell
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Apr 22, 2004 - 6:35 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's a 5.0 liter I believe... and although it only lays down around 170-200 hp... it puts out around 280-300 ft lbs of torque. I think he woulda walked you easy... you just got lucky... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Apr 22, 2004 - 6:36 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Apr 22, 2004 - 10:25 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
don't want to spoil your day/night ... but something had to be worng with his care.. Iroc's can move those fiberglass bodys are every light..and they put a lot of power to the ground.. but then again you could just be a far better driver then him..
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Apr 23, 2004 - 3:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
170bhp in a 5litre LMFAO!! thats 34bhp per litre, thats the most inefficient engine ever!a 1960s vw beetle is better than that!
a 5 litre engine should be putting out 350bhp at least, anything less is a disgrace -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Apr 23, 2004 - 3:44 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '04 From United Kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Its not particually powerful Uz - but when you consider they can easily last for half a million miles or more you see why they do it. The engines just are not worked at all. I can't see many 3S-GTE's lasting that long! 
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Apr 23, 2004 - 4:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 13, '03 From NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
DJMC_Celica - Your Rims arent 19"
 they're 17" cause I can tell.
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Apr 23, 2004 - 7:06 AM
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No they are def 19s...I know what the tire says, DEF not 17s Trust me!
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Apr 23, 2004 - 7:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
but he keeps them clean though .. 
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Apr 23, 2004 - 7:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Half a million miles with half a million engines in them. Those things arent reliable at all. People are always rebuilding them things. You cant compare NO GM to a Toyota. In fact those camaro's are pieces of crap. -------------------- |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 9:53 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I call BS. My buddy w/ a Del Sol VTec could barely beat an IROC. And vtec sol's are mid 15 sec cars. You own a mid 16 sec car. The Iroc was probably broken
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Apr 23, 2004 - 10:02 AM
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no offence, but i have seen more american cars run longer an harder an more miles than any import, also saying, is that weve owned am in the past an havnt had a chnace, im really only talking about gm, the reast weve had no luck with. and those camaros as long as you chnage oil, and take care of them, they will run a lot longer than any 6gc, i mean most i here are craping out around 160-180k... Our 89 chevy truck, just died at around, 300k pops 86 vetter, 206k got totalled, but ran perfect pontiac transport, 208k perfect, only a new trans to add one more thing, every car is a peace of ****......... This post has been edited by Digndoug: Apr 23, 2004 - 10:03 AM |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 10:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Not true with all the GM's ive owned and the rest of my family members... All needed rebuilds at around 100k miles, trannys crapping out, whole freaking car rattling apart, basically everything has been replaced at least once during its whole 100k lifespan. They did look nice on the outside but they are cheaply made. I have seen some last a long time but they are totally falling apart and no telling how many rebuilds they have been through. Toyota Quality far exceeds anything by GM. My family has owned mostly GM's up until the last few years...WE will never go back..
BTW..i had a 93 camaro...headgasket blew around 100k, fuel pump, 3 alternators, driveshaft bearing went bad so had to make a whole new onepeice shaft, freeze plug leaked and had to drop the whole tranny to change that peice of crap 1$ cap. Bose crap radio been refurbished a couple times and still didnt work..Taillights went out all the time, grounding problems with turnsignals, windows rattled like crazy along with the rest of the interior. This post has been edited by bufferdan: Apr 23, 2004 - 10:19 AM -------------------- |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 11:59 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dont get too cocky
a 87 IROC is not a good example of American muscle, its 17 years old, and all GM v8's of the 80's sucked from the factory. fastest cars GM made in the 80's were the Grand Nationals, T-Types, and Turbo Trans Am's, and all of those had the 3.8l turbo v6 engine as for lasting 500k miles, i highly doubt that, maybe 200k tops. i read on a forum where a guy blew his transmission on his sierra/silverado(new model) in only 19k miles. the internals of their engines are great, and can last a long ass time, but they design the supporting systems to barely get the job done. -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Apr 23, 2004 - 12:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
The older ones are much better! Sure they dont have the tuned performance of newer cars but there is less to break unlike newer cars.
Most of the new GM cars are really crappy and seem to be disposable after about 100k miles. Just look at the resale value of a domestic car once it gets around 100k on it. If that isnt telling you something then i dont know what to tell you. For all the electronics and technology toyotas have in them today they are darn good cars and seem to go a long time with few problems. -------------------- |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 12:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
A couple of weeks back I stroled a caviler I know they suck but hell it made me feel good considering I know how slow STs are LOL
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