 Import Vs. America Muscle, Kill Story...bye bye bye IROC! |
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 Apr 23, 2004 - 12:58 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Apr 3, '03 From Omaha, Ne Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Last summer I raced a late 80's early 90's something Camero with a 305 I think and exhaust and an intake. He beat me but only by half a car length. It was any auto, but I still felt good. He also raced my friends 99 Extreme and beat him by two car lengths he has a 5 speed and I can only beat him w/ the celi by about 1 to 1.5 car lengths. So I don't really now what my point with all this was, but I thought that I would share since it's kinda on topic.
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Apr 23, 2004 - 1:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
4cyl extreme?  Those things are like a whopping 115hp ..WEE WEE
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Apr 23, 2004 - 1:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 26, '03 From McKenzie, TN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Crap, now you've got me scared. My car already has over 150k...but it hasnt given any probs at all since I've had it as far as the engine goes. The only thing I've actually had to do to it is replace the factory starter and a lightbulb (which I broke painting my tails). The 6gc is the most reliable car of the 4 I've had. I think your not giving it enough credit. I'll agree that the IROC's faster, but I seriously doubt it will outlast a celi if you take care of it. |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 2:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '04 From United Kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sorry Guys - I didn't explain properly.
Lots of American cars have large engines with a relatively low power output, lots of American engines do last for a very high number of miles. It wasn't a specific comment about that particular car. I used to drive an old Chevy station wagon when I lived in Massachusetts it had 450k miles on it - was rusty as anything but the engine was great
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Apr 23, 2004 - 3:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Keyword.."OLD" ...the old ones did go for a long time.. It doesnt happen much anymore. These celicas are about the best car you can buy as far as reliability goes. Yeah some may have problems but for the most part they are very good cars. -------------------- |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 6:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 22, '02 From Detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Don't worry about anything. I've got 200,100 miles(hit the 200 mark Tuesday), and have only replaced a clutch, starter, battery, and a few other minors like plugs/wires and the timing belt. I'm overdue for a timing belt, but it still purrs like it did with 100k on it. |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 7:25 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'd have to see it to believe it. American cars aren't exactly known for their reliability... as Japanese imports are. In the american market... 90,000+ miles is considered 'high mileage'... when in fact... that's barely 1/3 of the life of a typical japanese import. As for your wagon... one of the very very few domestics I've ever heard of lasting well beyond 300,000 miles. Also... unless you're the original owner, or owned the vehicle for a vast majority of those miles... you never know if the motor has or hasn't been rebuilt/replaced during the life of the car. I know for sure (from experience) that Toyota 2/3/4AC's and 20/22R/E are immortal engines. Even with poor maintainence, those suckers still run far beyond 300,000 and even farther beyond 400,000 miles with proper maintainence... that's why Toyota used those block designs (A seires and R series) basically from the late 70's all the way to the mid-late ninties with unparalleled reliability. The only other company that may come close is Honda... who are still using the old D series even today. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 7:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
ok, lets say this, all cars suck..... ok, but really if i were going for the beter engines, better power bands, and most realiable, i would get a bimmer or benz, you cant beat them..
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Apr 23, 2004 - 8:43 PM
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I definitely wouldn't consider a Bimmer or a Benz the most reliable. They're really nice cars, but they're generally not as reliable as Toyotas or Hondas. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Apr 23, 2004 - 11:39 PM
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they 17s.... but he keep em clean -------------------- i am awesome
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they're 17" cause I can tell. 
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Apr 23, 2004 - 11:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im hammered but one pic explains it all
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Apr 24, 2004 - 12:23 AM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I'm so lost...that's a pic of Clipsetuner. 
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Apr 24, 2004 - 5:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 27, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hi everyone,
First, I must give my apologies for the following long post. This is my second post and I hope I do not clutter too much of the cyber space. Reliability of the Sixth Generation Toyota Celica (6GC) This topic is very interesting. There seems to be various misconceptions on the reliability of the 6GC when comparing it against various levels, including car, make and locality. One must really focus on the individual car (even for a new car) to assess its reliability. Numerous factors can affect the reliability including: * Company (why the car was build, its investment on the model, the focus on electricals and engine, materials, the actual build process, etc) * Person (how the car was driven, its history on maintenance and repair, etc) Obviously, trying to obtain the above information is almost impossible if one does not own the car. In fact, I understand that it might sound very ironic and really defeats the purpose of buying a car when one must own a car before one can actually know its reliability. Therefore, while being unable to know its true reliability, to a certain extent, there are some propositions which one can use to ascertain a potential reliability of a car. Upon research (albeit only over the Internet) for the past year, I believe I would make the following very general propositions (with all other things being equal) based on the previous views of the members of this topic: 1. The 6GC is one of the most reliable cars made by Toyota. 2. Toyota and Honda are the companies which consistently make the most reliable cars (which require the less maintenance or daily care). Mercedes Benz and BMW reliability is current declining against Toyota and Honda. 3. Mercedes Benz and BMW has engine reliability comparable to Toyota and Honda although their respective maintenance and daily care must be higher than Toyota and Honda to maintain its reliability. Their electricals are definitely not as reliable as the electricals of Toyota and Honda. 4. Imports are generally more reliable than "local" cars. Obviously, those views are my thoughts but I believe they are correct. I hope you would come to the same conclusions after research as well. Thanks for reading, TheReader |
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Apr 24, 2004 - 10:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
explains what? you like ugly girls? -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Apr 24, 2004 - 10:52 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '03 From New Orleans Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
thats what i was thinking |
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Apr 24, 2004 - 1:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the late 80s IROCs are ****ty ass cars period.
--------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Apr 24, 2004 - 1:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
he speaks again!!! -------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Apr 24, 2004 - 2:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yes -------------------- i am awesome
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Apr 24, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 25, '03 From cranston RI Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
.......wow more randomness out of andason.... --------------------  |
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Apr 25, 2004 - 4:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 6, '03 From Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think Andason had a little too much to drink
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