Handling an AutoCross, The parking lot cone thing! |
Handling an AutoCross, The parking lot cone thing! |
Feb 12, 2003 - 9:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '03 From Phila, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I hear some of ya guys saying the handling on our Celicas is pretty good. I don't disagree but then again I haven't had the chance to drive any other imports. Does the Celica really handle better than other imports. And I was looking into AutoCrossing with my Celica but saw from the results of runs that the only toyota anyone used was an MR2....How well do you think my 97 Celica could do autocrossing, i plan on getting a strut brace, coilovers, and better wheels...i think that would make my car pretty agile right?
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Feb 13, 2003 - 12:12 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
It would work quite well. Celicas are not fast in the line, but they are quick on their feet, so to speak.
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Feb 16, 2003 - 8:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
autocross is all about the driver. a pinto could rock you if the driver was good... but in turn you could absolutly crush a lambo given the right person behind the wheel...
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Feb 16, 2003 - 11:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
True enough, But I think that goes for any form of racing. My budy with the 91 CRX SI beat a like95+ f150 the other day. It was really sad. Had him by like three truck lengths. lol
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Feb 18, 2003 - 1:23 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '02 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
a truck might have tons of horse power but the things weigh tons...thats not really giving the crx much credit IMO...
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Feb 18, 2003 - 10:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 11, '03 From Phila, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Has anyone actually used there 6g Celica in an autocross and if so, then how did you do? I know someone out there must have!
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Feb 19, 2003 - 12:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Dude, my dad's silverado will fly.
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Feb 20, 2003 - 2:03 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '02 From San Diego, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah Im kinda curious on how well a 6th gen would do on autocross considering how much we brag about how we can take corners and such and that makes up for our low hp output somewhat.
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Feb 20, 2003 - 2:35 AM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I think John Dolocek(The Evilspeed Toe on Celica.net I believe), the guy who makes the Dr. CAI, does autocross with his car. You may want to ask him about it.
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Feb 20, 2003 - 3:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 20, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Feb 20, 2003 - 3:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
good link... props bro |
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Feb 20, 2003 - 4:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 12, '02 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, John ...the Dolecek Racing guy does Autocross...his sig pic is of him autocrossing....his handle is evilspeed toe on celica.net like Coomer said...his car is real nice...he makes exhaust systems now too
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Feb 20, 2003 - 4:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 5, '03 From Bay Area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Is drift allowed in autocross?
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Mar 12, 2003 - 2:30 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yup, the celica is a good autocross car. Mine pulls over 1g on street tires, will do 60-0 in 123ft and puts about 126hp to the ground.
But, as the man said, its all about the driver. I've been autocrossing for 4 years now and I still have a lot to learn. |
Mar 13, 2003 - 12:24 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Your ST makes 126 whp with the CAI, cat back, S-AFC, and pully?
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Mar 13, 2003 - 4:15 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, roughly that. According to the accelerometer data I've got, it runs 15.80's at about 85 mph. Doing some back calcluating that comes out to about 126whp. The 7A really responds well to mods. When I went to do the safc tuning, I couldn't believe how bad the stock fuel map is. Totally horrible.
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Mar 13, 2003 - 4:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 5, '02 From Phoenix, AZ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
All that and only 126hp, kinda seems like a waste of money and time. But it's better than mine. |
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Mar 13, 2003 - 10:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '02 From Sleep in Warren chill in clinton twp, works/school in detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
126 wheel hp is pretty damn good a friggin stock 6th gen st prolly puts out around 90ish horsies to the ground -------------------- |
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Mar 13, 2003 - 1:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Assuming about 15% driveline loss thats 145hp at the crank.
Assuming a more conservative 10% loss thats 138hp at the crank. Not too bad considering a stock ST is rated at 115 at the crank and all I have are minor bolt ons. |
Mar 13, 2003 - 8:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 13, '02 From Corpus Christi, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have autocrossed my 97 gt a couple times. As far as I know it performs really well since it's light, wide, and quick. However, it has been my experience that autocrossing is entirely about the driver and tire pressure. It really doesn't matter what you drive, as long as you know your car well enough to handle the track.
For autocross though I would recomend eibach springs, a trd strut brace, and maybe a sway bar upgrade. Most autocrossing will put you in a different class though. I don't have enough experience at the track so far, but my main claim to fame is beating a Mini Cooper S. lol. |
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