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post May 28, 2004 - 4:08 PM
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QUOTE (Andason @ May 22, 2004 - 1:30 PM)
QUOTE (blkGT @ May 22, 2004 - 10:17 AM)
nothing police can do because i guess when you fingerprint cars it messes up the electrical system with the graphite

Uhhhhhhh. The police got you good. Why would graphite mess up your electrical system? Thats why you unplug the battery. People weld on cars and the reason to unplug the battery when welding is so you dont mess around with the diodes in the alt. Why would graphite (pencil lead) mess up your cars electrical system????

lazy friggen cops

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post May 28, 2004 - 4:50 PM
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UPDATE: I GOT IT BACK.

long story short, the meth-head who i work with IS the one who took it i found out by mentioneing it to him. went to his house told him i was going to return it and id be back with 200 bux for him, he wouldnt let me take it, so i said i would go home and get the money and to meet me at work so I left, called my boss, told him he had to fire this kid be4 work tonight and was trying to decide what to do about the money. (calling the cops was out of the question this kid is a peice of sh!t and would never leave me alone) so my boss says i will lend it to you meet him here. so i show up and hes being arrested for possesion of stolen property. not to mention his beautiful collection of hyperdermic needles in his car. i about killed my boss but in the end i have to thank him, but thanks for the support guys. i will get a shot of my system with this bad boy now. (altho i am returning it and getting a new one because ive decided 3 subs and 3k watts is just unnessesary.)

CupCrazy - valentine one picks up laser. and the chances of a cop shooting you and only you with the laser is very unlikely so it will have time to go off. it has saved my ass many times.
post May 28, 2004 - 5:01 PM
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awesome, glad to see the happy ending


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post May 28, 2004 - 5:04 PM
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QUOTE (blkGT @ May 28, 2004 - 2:50 PM)
UPDATE: I GOT IT BACK.

long story short, the meth-head who i work with IS the one who took it i found out by mentioneing it to him. went to his house told him i was going to return it and id be back with 200 bux for him, he wouldnt let me take it, so i said i would go home and get the money and to meet me at work so I left, called my boss, told him he had to fire this kid be4 work tonight and was trying to decide what to do about the money. (calling the cops was out of the question this kid is a peice of sh!t and would never leave me alone) so my boss says i will lend it to you meet him here. so i show up and hes being arrested for possesion of stolen property. not to mention his beautiful collection of hyperdermic needles in his car. i about killed my boss but in the end i have to thank him, but thanks for the support guys. i will get a shot of my system with this bad boy now. (altho i am returning it and getting a new one because ive decided 3 subs and 3k watts is just unnessesary.)

CupCrazy - valentine one picks up laser. and the chances of a cop shooting you and only you with the laser is very unlikely so it will have time to go off. it has saved my ass many times.

Congrats on getting your stuff back smile.gif Must feel sweet as h*ll.

As for the picking up laser... I'm not so sure. I've never heard of that system, so I can't say it doesn't... but I'd highly doubt it, though can't rule it out.

All I know about laser is that the cop picks out a target... places the beam on the car he wants, then pulls the trigger.

The only system I'm familiar with is the sytem that the police use here... which does single out specific cars and won't pick up another car. I've asked my dad and a few other cops I know how they catch people speeding and listened to their stories.

They'll sit on an overpass bridge over a freeway, pick out random cars, hit them with the laser, and if they're speeding, they'll radio ahead to a cruiser waiting just up the road. Then when the car passes the waiting cruiser, they get nailed. What happens is, people see the cruiser on the side of the road way back, so they slow down, not knowing that they were tagged about a mile or so back, long before they see the waiting cruiser.

Maybe other departments have different systems, but if they don't, maybe you've just gotten lucky and don't know about it, but maybe not.

If you know any cops see if you can test it... get them to tag you with it and see if you pick it up. The laser is the size of a pin dot... so I'd assume it'd be pretty tough to pick up, but I can't say it's impossible.

heck, that's how I found out my speedometer is off by 3-5mph depending on how fast I'm going smile.gif

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post May 28, 2004 - 5:06 PM
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so the kid said he had it and hed sell it back to you?


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post May 28, 2004 - 5:36 PM
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QUOTE (Andason @ May 28, 2004 - 3:06 PM)
so the kid said he had it and hed sell it back to you?

no he claimed his "friend" said he stole it and traded it to his dealer for 2 grams of coke or something. and he could buy it back from the "dealer" for 160-200 depended on the quality of the drug. so all in all it was all BS and he took it.
post May 28, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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Article on the valentine one website about laser and how u can protect urself against it
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L is for Laser biggrin.gif
post May 28, 2004 - 6:01 PM
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QUOTE (Hanyo @ May 23, 2004 - 1:34 AM)
is there a way to keep people from popping our windows out?

roll them down biggrin.gif
post May 28, 2004 - 6:36 PM
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TRY A DUAL STAGE PROXIMITY SENSOR... I GOT THAT IN MY CAR. IT DETERS PEOPLE AWAY. AND IF YOU HAVE AN ALARM...MAKE SURE YOU GET A BACK UP BATTERY. IN CASE THEY TRY TOO CUT YOUR POWER SOURCE. AND A HOOD LOCK. THOSE ARE SOME SECURITY FEATURES I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT.

IT'LL ALSO MAKE YOUR CAR INSURANCE GO DOWN. biggrin.gif

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post May 28, 2004 - 8:38 PM
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QUOTE (LoriAnn143 @ May 28, 2004 - 5:36 PM)

IT'LL ALSO MAKE YOUR CAR INSURANCE GO DOWN. biggrin.gif

^_^ mine didnt and i paid 500 for my alarm.


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post May 28, 2004 - 9:41 PM
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QUOTE (Andason @ May 28, 2004 - 6:38 PM)
QUOTE (LoriAnn143 @ May 28, 2004 - 5:36 PM)

  IT'LL ALSO MAKE YOUR CAR INSURANCE GO DOWN.  biggrin.gif

^_^ mine didnt and i paid 500 for my alarm.

if you have theft, it should. Im sure it depends where you get insurance aswell.


And thats crazy about the amp man, some people eh. Thats nice of your boss to do that for you, where do you work?
post May 28, 2004 - 10:19 PM
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i remember when my car got broken into. Broken window, broken center console, and a stolen cd player. thats what led me to an alarm. Oh, but i got a crap load of money from my insurance. enough for a new window, fix my center console, new cd player, and pay some cash for my rims.


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post May 28, 2004 - 10:24 PM
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im a cook at a sports pub. yea hes a good guy, great boss only about 25
post May 28, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (blkGT @ May 28, 2004 - 8:24 PM)
im a cook at a sports pub. yea hes a good guy, great boss only about 25

Been there done that wink.gif I used to be a cook at a bar and grill, then went on to fine dining, I guess you could call me a chef but I wasnt certified. Its good to get that experience because if you ever need a job theres always something in the resturaunt business since theres a huge turn over of employees, do to the fact that its hard work for little money and most bosses in that type of work are enough to give you an alcer, and thats on top of the natural stress of that type of work. BUt I hope i never ever go back to that type of job tongue.gif

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yeah.... who wants to work when you can collect unemployment? biggrin.giftongue.gif


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post May 28, 2004 - 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (celicarocker @ May 28, 2004 - 8:50 PM)
yeah.... who wants to work when you can collect unemployment? biggrin.gif:p

I know eh?hahahaahaaha
post May 28, 2004 - 11:27 PM
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"The pencil-thin beam of the laser gun expands with distance. The actual beam is only several feet wide at 500 feet, but "aiming wobble" introduced by the human holding the bulky gun make the detectable beam at least three times larger. Even without the wobble, it covers most of the roadway after a mile. This means it is actually much easier to find a fragment of the beam at greater distances from the laser trap. At short ranges, the beam may be so concentrated that a detector mounted away from the aim point on the vehicle may not be able to pick up enough stray energy to activate an alarm."

several feet wide? uh... that's definitely a sales pitch.

If you haven't gotten caught yet, that's cool. And if this product makes you feel safer about your chances, then it does what it was designed to do. But I still wouldn't count on it. That was a biased sales pitch, given in such a way that it points out the many ways in which it could "possibly" fail. Not worth the investment in my opinion.

I still think you're better off saving your money for something else... after all, the odds of a cop putting a laser on the car you are driving are extremely low, especially in high traffic areas. Just use your head... if it's an area where it's easy to speed, and you know the odds of cops being there are high... just don't speed.

Well, put simply, don't speed and you won't need it smile.gif I learned that the hard way...lol
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QUOTE (CupCrazy38 @ May 28, 2004 - 9:27 PM)
"The pencil-thin beam of the laser gun expands with distance. The actual beam is only several feet wide at 500 feet, but "aiming wobble" introduced by the human holding the bulky gun make the detectable beam at least three times larger. Even without the wobble, it covers most of the roadway after a mile. This means it is actually much easier to find a fragment of the beam at greater distances from the laser trap. At short ranges, the beam may be so concentrated that a detector mounted away from the aim point on the vehicle may not be able to pick up enough stray energy to activate an alarm."

several feet wide? uh... that's definitely a sales pitch.

If you haven't gotten caught yet, that's cool. And if this product makes you feel safer about your chances, then it does what it was designed to do. But I still wouldn't count on it. That was a biased sales pitch, given in such a way that it points out the many ways in which it could "possibly" fail. Not worth the investment in my opinion.

I still think you're better off saving your money for something else... after all, the odds of a cop putting a laser on the car you are driving are extremely low, especially in high traffic areas. Just use your head... if it's an area where it's easy to speed, and you know the odds of cops being there are high... just don't speed.

Well, put simply, don't speed and you won't need it smile.gif I learned that the hard way...lol

I would think the beam over great distances would fragment and cascade do to atmospheric distortion, but thats just what I think, I dont know alot about lasers tongue.gif Maybe you could buy a laser pointer and do some experiments wink.gif

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QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ May 29, 2004 - 12:50 AM)
QUOTE (CupCrazy38 @ May 28, 2004 - 9:27 PM)
"The pencil-thin beam of the laser gun expands with distance. The actual beam is only several feet wide at 500 feet, but "aiming wobble" introduced by the human holding the bulky gun make the detectable beam at least three times larger. Even without the wobble, it covers most of the roadway after a mile. This means it is actually much easier to find a fragment of the beam at greater distances from the laser trap. At short ranges, the beam may be so concentrated that a detector mounted away from the aim point on the vehicle may not be able to pick up enough stray energy to activate an alarm."

several feet wide? uh... that's definitely a sales pitch.

If you haven't gotten caught yet, that's cool. And if this product makes you feel safer about your chances, then it does what it was designed to do. But I still wouldn't count on it. That was a biased sales pitch, given in such a way that it points out the many ways in which it could "possibly" fail. Not worth the investment in my opinion.

I still think you're better off saving your money for something else... after all, the odds of a cop putting a laser on the car you are driving are extremely low, especially in high traffic areas. Just use your head... if it's an area where it's easy to speed, and you know the odds of cops being there are high... just don't speed.

Well, put simply, don't speed and you won't need it smile.gif I learned that the hard way...lol

I would think the beam over great distances would fragment and cascade do to atmospheric distortion, but thats just what I think, I dont know alot about lasers tongue.gif Maybe you could buy a laser pointer and do some experiments wink.gif

that actually sounds pretty accurate... a laser is just a beam of light... so do an exparament....

take a flashlight.. hold it 1" away from a wall.... notice its a small circle.... slowly start to pull it away, you'll notice the circle of light starts to get bigger.... now take that pencil thin laser beam, and shoot it out a mile... it would cover a pretty big area.... and as far as that wobble thing, also very true... if something concentrated at a distance far away, the slightest movement where its sent from will cause a big jump way out where its concentrated... you can see this best in cameras... look through a viewfinder and move your hand, the image moves a little... but now zoom in all the way on something, then move your hand the same amount.... it jumps all over the place....

if V1's didnt work, they woulnd't be renouned as one of the best radar detectors money can buy....


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post May 29, 2004 - 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (celicarocker @ May 28, 2004 - 9:58 PM)
QUOTE (Uppitycracker @ May 29, 2004 - 12:50 AM)
QUOTE (CupCrazy38 @ May 28, 2004 - 9:27 PM)
"The pencil-thin beam of the laser gun expands with distance. The actual beam is only several feet wide at 500 feet, but "aiming wobble" introduced by the human holding the bulky gun make the detectable beam at least three times larger. Even without the wobble, it covers most of the roadway after a mile. This means it is actually much easier to find a fragment of the beam at greater distances from the laser trap. At short ranges, the beam may be so concentrated that a detector mounted away from the aim point on the vehicle may not be able to pick up enough stray energy to activate an alarm."

several feet wide? uh... that's definitely a sales pitch.

If you haven't gotten caught yet, that's cool. And if this product makes you feel safer about your chances, then it does what it was designed to do. But I still wouldn't count on it. That was a biased sales pitch, given in such a way that it points out the many ways in which it could "possibly" fail. Not worth the investment in my opinion.

I still think you're better off saving your money for something else... after all, the odds of a cop putting a laser on the car you are driving are extremely low, especially in high traffic areas. Just use your head... if it's an area where it's easy to speed, and you know the odds of cops being there are high... just don't speed.

Well, put simply, don't speed and you won't need it smile.gif I learned that the hard way...lol

I would think the beam over great distances would fragment and cascade do to atmospheric distortion, but thats just what I think, I dont know alot about lasers tongue.gif Maybe you could buy a laser pointer and do some experiments wink.gif

that actually sounds pretty accurate... a laser is just a beam of light... so do an exparament....

take a flashlight.. hold it 1" away from a wall.... notice its a small circle.... slowly start to pull it away, you'll notice the circle of light starts to get bigger.... now take that pencil thin laser beam, and shoot it out a mile... it would cover a pretty big area.... and as far as that wobble thing, also very true... if something concentrated at a distance far away, the slightest movement where its sent from will cause a big jump way out where its concentrated... you can see this best in cameras... look through a viewfinder and move your hand, the image moves a little... but now zoom in all the way on something, then move your hand the same amount.... it jumps all over the place....

if V1's didnt work, they woulnd't be renouned as one of the best radar detectors money can buy....

Now, I'd believe you with that statment... "...one of the best radar detectors..."

But I'm still doubtful of the laser detection.

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