 7a-fe Tranny Problems!!, Help?!?!?! |
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 Jun 1, 2004 - 10:15 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%)  |
Hey everyone,
Here recently in my Celica it won't go into 1st or 3rd gears at times and I'll be sitting at a stop light and try to go into first and it will not go... the nly way to get it in is RAMM IT HARD or turn off the car put it in gear then restart. It also is grindin in reverse almost everytime i put it in. I'm tryin to avoid goin to the shop and gett screwed on princin for them to tell me it's nothin when i know it is. If you have any knowledge what so ever please help me out. Thanks!!! Dustin --------------------  |
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Jun 1, 2004 - 10:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Cincinnati, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Try changing the head-light fluid.
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Jun 1, 2004 - 10:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
What would the headlight fluid have teh do with it? I eman it just doesn't sound too logical but i'm willing to do ne thing!!!
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Jun 1, 2004 - 11:46 PM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Hehe, headlights don't have fluid.  Like I was saying, I think it's the C-52 trannies that we have. Mine does the exact same thing. Sometimes I'll be stopped in neutral and the light will turn green and it'll take me forever to get the car into any gear, which usually involves slamming the car into gear. And I grind going into reverse half of the time I do it. I think that is partly due to not having a synchro on reverse gear. I changed my tranny fluid over the weekend to fully synthetic BG Syncro-Shift II and it didn't do a thing.  Anyone have any ideas? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Jun 2, 2004 - 2:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '03 From FRANKFORT,KENTUCKY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If you're at a stoplight and you need to take off but the car just doesn't want to go into 1st here is what you can do. If it won't go into 1st gear don't shove it in to gear because you could really mess things up. When it doesn't go in just hold the shifter right there and don't move it back at all,just release the clutch a little and it will slide right in. Same thing goes for reverse as well. It works for me everytime. Reverse will still grind going in sometimes but it won't be as bad.
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Jun 2, 2004 - 2:06 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
or you can also try reving up to about 1500rpm.. then relase the clutch and shift.. it should slid right in.. or you can also try puting her in 2nd first then back into frist before you take off
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Jun 2, 2004 - 2:07 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
yup, just push the shifter a bit and then release the cluch a bit and it will put right into the gear. Same thing does my Corolla and Celica, sometimes they just wount go into the gear First and reverse... -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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Jun 2, 2004 - 2:11 AM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Cool! Thanks for the info guys...I'll try this tomorrow.
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Jun 2, 2004 - 5:11 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 10, '03 From Santa Barbara, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea thats what i was thinking...sounds like that one should work |
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Jun 2, 2004 - 8:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
Thanks everyone i'll try it today!
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Jun 2, 2004 - 3:09 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Jason, I'll try that later today, but I have a feeling my synchros are already pretty broken in/worn.
And I've tried the second-first shift, but when I'm stopped and I can't get the car into first, I also can't get it into any other gears. I tried letting off the clutch a bit today too while trying to ease the shifter into first, but that didn't work either of the couple times that I tried it. This is my second dying transmission I've had to deal with in one year on my '94. My '88 Celica auto tranny is also dead, or close to it. I wish I could just bolt up a Honda tranny to my car. 
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Jun 2, 2004 - 3:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 13, '03 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I usually don't have the first gear problem, but I do have the reverse one. I also have trouble shifting from 1st to 2nd from like 5600 in first. Is that just a worn clutch or a worn slave cylinder? It doesn't slip at all in gear.
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Jun 2, 2004 - 3:49 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
My clutch doesn't stick at all. It's only got about 4,000 miles on it too. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Jun 2, 2004 - 8:25 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 2, '04 From Louisiana, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I had a similar problem not too long ago. I had a hard time engaging 1st gear or reverse. My clutch did not slip, and is in decent shape. I was able to visually see the slave cylinder piston retract even though the clutch pedal was fully depressed. My master cylinder was the culprit; replaced it and bled the system and all is well.
See if you can get someone to help you with the clutch then do the quick visual inspection to rule out the hydraulic system. |
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Jun 2, 2004 - 11:41 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
What should I do and look for when inspecting the master and slave cylinders?
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Jun 2, 2004 - 11:56 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
did you try what mac suggested? give it a bit of gas then clutch in/put it in gear? seems to work when it won't go into first.
and I agree about the C-52 trannies
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Jun 3, 2004 - 12:35 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 2, '04 From Louisiana, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Have someone get in the car, and depress the clutch fully. Look at the slave cylinder's piston as it moves the cluth fork and reaches maximum extension. As long as the "driver" keeps their foot down, the piston should not retract. To get a little better idea, I held a ruler up to the clutch fork, and used the marks as a quick indicator of any retraction. When my master cylinder was bad, I had at least half an inch of movement in the piston within a few seconds. I also used this method when I was bleeding the clutch hydraulics, I kept testing until I had no appreciable movement, then called it quits. No problems yet, and it's been a few months now. Unfortunately, this won't isolate the cause of your problem (if you have one) any further than the hydraulic system. You could have a bad slave cyl, master, or both. I ended up replacing both because my master cylinder was at fault, and I had already changed my slave cyl. |
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Jun 3, 2004 - 7:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 9, '03 From Dayton, OH Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
pennzoil synchromesh gear oil ! Mine was grinding when down shifting to 3rd and once i put this stuff in there it is fine through every gear. If you synchros are totally shot then not much you can do besides replace them. My celica has 158k on it and shifts excellent.
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