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post Jun 5, 2004 - 8:29 PM
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when i start up my car it will rev up to 500 rpm then die. it keeps on doing this unless i give it some gas, well that used to work up until today, i have to keep it at 3k rpm for a few secs for it to idle at all (then it will idle at about 250 and the whole car will shake badly) , also iv been hearing a high pitch sound that has been gettin louder for a few weeks.... WHAT IS WRONG! the idle problem has been hapening since winter but just got worse this month. its almost unstartable now. PLEASE HELP ME!
post Jun 5, 2004 - 8:35 PM
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is your cel on?


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post Jun 5, 2004 - 8:37 PM
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is my car on right now?
post Jun 5, 2004 - 9:33 PM
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put higher octane gas in it, and don't rev til 3k; rev at 6.
post Jun 5, 2004 - 9:45 PM
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what do u mean dont rev til 3k rev at 6
post Jun 5, 2004 - 10:12 PM
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anyone else!!!!!!!!! this car can hardly work, and i need some help
post Jun 5, 2004 - 10:16 PM
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Where is the high pitch sound coming from? It could be something as simple as a air leak in a vacumm lines or intake. It could also be a belt slipping, possibly the alternator belt, have you had to jump start your car?
post Jun 5, 2004 - 10:29 PM
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my car has been doing the same thing for a while....im thinking that its the fuel filter.

for some reason, it helps to turn your AC on as you try starting the car. then just give it some gas and it should kick in.


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post Jun 5, 2004 - 10:51 PM
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your timing could be off
post Jun 5, 2004 - 11:27 PM
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I had that exact same problem for about 3 months. I still don't know for sure what it might have been, but it had to have been 1 of 3 things... or maybe a combination... who knows.

First I bought some STP fuel injector cleaner, because it says on the bottle that it helps "hard startups and rough idles." So I filled up the tank and put that in. After driving for a little while then starting it up later it seemed like it might have made a little bit of a difference, but it was really hard to tell. Then the next day I got a tune up. I drove it for a couple days after that and it didn't seem to be having as much trouble starting up, but the idle was still rough. Then I had to take it to get a new timing belt put on. That was about 3 days ago, and now it starts up really nicely and idles pretty well.

I do still get some hard startups, but not even close to as much as before. Plus I still haven't used the full tank that I put the STP in... so there's still more to go.

edit: It seems to just be getting better and better, so I think it's the STP that did it.

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post Jun 5, 2004 - 11:36 PM
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If you are going to get a fuel injector cleaner buy Techron, its the best you can get.
post Jun 5, 2004 - 11:36 PM
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what shid meant is if you do get the car started, you have to clear the engine out, it could be something as simple as that. So take it 6000, if not redline, it's like turning the leaf blower on high. That's all shid meant


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post Jun 5, 2004 - 11:37 PM
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check your timing on your timing belt
because it controls your idle....
post Jun 6, 2004 - 12:09 AM
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is it tough to start? my mr2 was just doing the same thing.... the alt was dead and the battery couldn't keep the car running for very long....
post Jun 6, 2004 - 12:39 AM
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Thanks spunky, thats exactly what I meant.

Before, when this happens, it seems to stay there until I redline almost. If I revved it up to 3k, it'd hold for a bit, then die. Once I revved it to 6k, the problem would go away for a good long while.
post Jun 6, 2004 - 1:59 AM
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I bet it's a bad plug wire cause it's sounds like you're not firing on all cylinders. If it's dark, have somebody start your car and see if it sparks before it dies.
post Jun 6, 2004 - 3:26 AM
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check timing for sure, but it dose sould like the alternater but that woudl not cause the car to die, just not charge the battery and the sensors/stuff would lose power. you could have carbon build up on your spark plugs, like really bad bild up, that would kill the engien. i doubt that its a wire prob but its worth checking. try checking if its getting fuel, easy way to check fuel pump is to unplug the fuel line and put it in a bucket then try and start the car. worse case could be that you bent a valve a little and its messing it all up, or even the rod, just bending it a little would cause horrible shaking, and kill the motor, also it would run better the faster it spins cause it would flex into alingment with the force.

best advice i could give is tow it to a mechanic/pro i spent like 5 days testing stuff on my dead engine only to grind the clutch out, and realize the engien is beyond repair, and i half to wait 5 days more then i would have to get it back. frown.gif


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post Jun 6, 2004 - 7:31 AM
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thanks guys, ne ways i tried the stp injecter cleaner about 3 -4 weeks ago and thats when the problem got worse. i did exactly as the directions said. as i got more into the gas i had it got worse, i figured it would get better when most of the stp was out but its still gettin worse. as with the timing when i bought the car at 75000 miles we made them put a new timing belt in (its at 85000 now). they could of been grimey b@stards and not put a new one in.......
post Jun 6, 2004 - 4:48 PM
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i just put bosch platinum +4s in, it seems to be better but there is still a problem, a side note on those though, defintly worth the money. my car is much more responsive to changes in throttle now and smoother acceleration. even a bit more power. my old spark plugs were complete trash, maybe ill get a picture up, they were absolutely covered in carbon and one had alot of corrsosion. i plan on new air filter proberly k&n, gas filter, and proberly new spark plug wires and distrubutor thing. ne ways thanks for ur help so far guys
post Jun 6, 2004 - 5:05 PM
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I had the same problem back in the day. It turned out it was my fuel filter had gone bad. Change that and it should help

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