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post Jun 7, 2004 - 7:21 PM
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does any body have pics of how they mounted a FMIC

and where is a good place to get one w/out paying $1000(links please)

whats the best size, i am thinking around the 600-700 hp range(i know this is high, but i don't want to have to buy one twice, i want to get a good one now while i have the $ so i won't have to get a bigger one someday when this is no longer my daily driver)


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post Jun 7, 2004 - 9:40 PM
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post Jun 8, 2004 - 3:35 AM
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look at profile for pics, but i mounted it to the front impact/supprt bar. just welded the top of the cooler to the bottom of the bar.
post Jun 8, 2004 - 10:29 AM
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not a bad price if you ask me


AUD $730 = $515 US

http://www.flyn.com.au/hybrid_intercooler.htm


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post Jun 8, 2004 - 11:19 AM
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The front mount intercooler does look good but someone argued that it introduces
more lag in the response because of the longer induction to throttle body path
the air travels. On our cars the examples I've seen always seem to have the pipework running over the exhaust manifold which defeats the purpose of cooling the air to begin with.
post Jun 8, 2004 - 11:53 AM
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post Jun 8, 2004 - 12:04 PM
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I say St205 watercharged IC...best way to go.

The A2A is horrible, i'm upset with mine and plan on going ST205 but its quite an effort locating everything.


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post Jun 9, 2004 - 2:28 AM
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If you go for the ST205 Intercooler route make sure you heat lag the underside
of the IC with Aluminium coated heat resist fibreglass wadding' it will help prevent
heat soak when the cars not moving. My IC would get so hot if the car was stationary for a few minutes, you could fry en egg on it. Toyota's standard
heat shield is pretty pathetic. Wadding available from Demon Tweeks :

Demon Tweeks


Search Under Aluminised heat Barrier,


Jon


post Jun 9, 2004 - 3:37 AM
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QUOTE (jontechie @ Jun 8, 2004 - 4:19 PM)
The front mount intercooler does look good but someone argued that it introduces
more lag in the response because of the longer induction to throttle body path
the air travels. On our cars the examples I've seen always seem to have the pipework running over the exhaust manifold which defeats the purpose of cooling the air to begin with.


Do you mean "over the manifold" like this picture of Itchy's setup?

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My understanding is, after the air passes through the intake, to the turbo fan- then it goes over the exhaust manifold (yes, heating it up), then passing through the intercooler which then goes to the TB- not passing over the manifold again.

Would it be best not to pass over the exhaust manifold in the first place? Yes. Does it really matter given the order of things? I doubt it. The turbo heats up the air a lot in the first place!

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post Jun 9, 2004 - 6:15 AM
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www.johnnyracecar.com
post Jun 9, 2004 - 1:29 PM
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QUOTE (sphinx @ Jun 8, 2004 - 3:29 PM)
not a bad price if you ask me


AUD $730 = $515 US

http://www.flyn.com.au/hybrid_intercooler.htm


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i really like this one i wonder how much shipping is to the us

i don't want a smaller one like in the pics above, but how would i mount a large one like that, i won't have an ac condensor, but the support thing that comes down to hold up the piece the low beams are attached to is in the way and the bumper


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post Jun 9, 2004 - 2:24 PM
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I would go custom W/A IC or go with the Large FMIC and Spray it with N20 it may help from the lag.

But custom W/A is your best bet.
post Jun 9, 2004 - 2:51 PM
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It seems like common sense, but you'd be surprised how many Celica owners run the piping over the exhaust manifold because it's easier. Might as well not have done the A2A anyway.
post Jun 9, 2004 - 3:48 PM
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XST, see my post
post Jun 9, 2004 - 9:22 PM
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i think i am going to run it somewhat like the pic shid posted
and i am going to the N-tercooler kit from nx and probably spray co2 because it way cheapper, and if i need a little extra, i'll get some nitrous instead.
i am probably ordering the hybrid one, i have been talking to flyin today and he sai they still have them in stock ready to ship and shipping is approx $130 aud

how much would that be all together in usd exactly, i used to have a currency converter on my laptop someplace, but can't seem to find it


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post Jun 10, 2004 - 3:15 AM
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QUOTE (shid @ Jun 9, 2004 - 1:37 AM)
QUOTE (jontechie @ Jun 8, 2004 - 4:19 PM)
The front mount intercooler does look good but someone argued that it introduces
more lag in the response because of the longer induction to throttle body path
the air travels. On our cars the examples I've seen always seem to have the pipework running over the exhaust manifold which defeats the purpose of cooling the air to begin with.


Do you mean "over the manifold" like this picture of Itchy's setup?

user posted image

My understanding is, after the air passes through the intake, to the turbo fan- then it goes over the exhaust manifold (yes, heating it up), then passing through the intercooler which then goes to the TB- not passing over the manifold again.

Would it be best not to pass over the exhaust manifold in the first place? Yes. Does it really matter given the order of things? I doubt it. The turbo heats up the air a lot in the first place!

That set up isn't too bad as the pipework to the throttle body avoids the manifold
( I was thinking in terms of the GT4 throttle body on a right hand drive), the
pipework would have to go very near the manifold unless you can route the pipework around the ABS area. Even with itchy's set up the intercooler has to work harder as hot turbine compressed air is made even hotter by its path over
the manifold. Anyone got a FMI installed that manages to avoid the exhaust
manifold ?
post Jun 10, 2004 - 4:01 AM
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technically there is more lag witha fmic set up. but i have never noticed any, and i argee with trance4 at celica.net who said its seems like the turbo spools up quicker witha fmic set up.

also the pic of the 5sfte set up is the way you want to do ur fmic pipes. when u go over the exhuast manifold with the pipe that goes into your throttle body thats kind of an oxymoron.
post Jun 10, 2004 - 2:55 PM
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i had a jimmy rig heat sheild on the exhaust manifold. but i took it off looked horrible, anybody have a 3sgte one around?


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post Jun 10, 2004 - 3:52 PM
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QUOTE
Anyone got a FMI installed that manages to avoid the exhaust
manifold ?


u mean like this?

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post Jun 10, 2004 - 4:44 PM
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