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post Jun 11, 2004 - 2:38 AM
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QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Jun 10, 2004 - 1:52 PM)
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Anyone got a FMI installed that manages to avoid the exhaust
manifold ?


u mean like this?

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post Jun 11, 2004 - 11:10 PM
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i would still like to have some pics of how people mounted their IC
i don't want to welt and if i doo it will be on the back side

also i was looking at some mags and saw sme installs on other cars and they didn't put the bumper thing(peice of metal that conects the frame behind the front bumper

also doesn't the bumper attatch to the metals thing i was talking about that people are welding the IC to, do you have to cut the bumper


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post Jun 13, 2004 - 3:24 PM
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dude, mounting an intercooler would be NO sweat. Don't worry about it.
post Jun 14, 2004 - 7:48 PM
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ok here is the thing the int. i am looking at is 300mm tall which is like 11.8 in, will it stick out the bottom of bumper if it is welded to the bottom of the that bar


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post Jun 14, 2004 - 8:12 PM
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As far as increased turbo lag with a fmic setup I dont think that should be the case. Aslong as the piping interior is the same volume in both instances the difference in spool should be trivial. Thats just out of my understanding of physics not experience.

So if you go with a fmic the piping should be smaller in diameter then if it where top mount, but not too much smaller or it'll bottle neck.

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post Jun 14, 2004 - 9:00 PM
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^^ Iunno about that. I agree that flow is proportionate to volume, but when you are talking an extra 1-2m of piping I don't think it'd work to run a pipe that thin. The theory is right but there's probably a cut off size as you said.

Also shid you are right to an extent with the piping over the manifold, but an exhaust manifold gets extrememly hot, and they are pretty big so there will be a decent amount of heat radiaton. Any piping running across it is going to pick up a lot of heat. Adding say 10-15 degrees C of heat to the air temp before it hits the IC might only give you 5-8 degrees up in the throttle body (total guesstimate), but that still isn't going for the most eficient setup.. we all know that intake temps make big changes to A/F ratios and timing...
post Jun 15, 2004 - 4:14 PM
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QUOTE (KAMiX @ Jun 14, 2004 - 7:00 PM)
^^ Iunno about that. I agree that flow is proportionate to volume, but when you are talking an extra 1-2m of piping I don't think it'd work to run a pipe that thin. The theory is right but there's probably a cut off size as you said.

Also shid you are right to an extent with the piping over the manifold, but an exhaust manifold gets extrememly hot, and they are pretty big so there will be a decent amount of heat radiaton. Any piping running across it is going to pick up a lot of heat. Adding say 10-15 degrees C of heat to the air temp before it hits the IC might only give you 5-8 degrees up in the throttle body (total guesstimate), but that still isn't going for the most eficient setup.. we all know that intake temps make big changes to A/F ratios and timing...

Ya exactly, obviously you cant keep the volume axactly the same, because like you and I said it would cause a bottle neck if the diameter is to small. Im just basically saying to reduce the lag pick a smaller size of pipe.

I first thought of this with my mr2, thinking about what it would take to do a fmic with it. Thats where I first thought of the relative volume of the piping, but obviously you'd be talking about more then a couple meters and it just would create more problems then its worth.
post Jun 15, 2004 - 4:23 PM
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