 The Direction In Which The Site Is Going, And what to do about it |
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 Jun 10, 2004 - 4:01 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jul 22, '03 From Raceland, LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
i agree for the most part ^^^ i'd love to post more in the other sections i'm still learning a lot from this site and i only post when i know i can be of some help. this site has been where i've gotten the bulk of my knowledge about my car and i'm thankful for it. he's definitely right about the off topic posts. i like getting to know who i'm talking to all the time and that's where it's done. but coomer is right in that there are a lot of needless posts too. just do like i do and skip 'em. --------------------  |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 4:02 PM
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 Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
Done deal, I'll start on it asap. I will take on all of the suspension parts. Does anyone wanna step up for the engines ? interior ? I'm gonna take most of the suspension database and make it a sticky with members reviews and pictures of installed items which will in catagories as so. 6th generation suspension coilovers pics & info.......... Springs pics & info............ Struts pics & info.......... Sway bars pics & info............ Braces pics & info........... other Such as camber kits, mounts, bushings, links, things like that. Give me like two weeks for a complete write up --------------------  I will return one day. |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 4:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
like i had suggested, make an entirely NEW forum called Faq's and kinda subindex it like on the same page. like have suspension -springs -coilerovers braking -brakepads -rotors -lines engine -3sgte -5sfte so on and so fourth that way we can reference and add information to these. this should be compiled and moderated. -------------------- i am awesome
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Jun 10, 2004 - 4:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i like Andasons idea, that way it wouldn't busy up each forum with giant stickys and new members would see it when they first come into the site, because i know when i first joined a long while back i would miss the stickys even though they were so obvious.
--------------------  All I have in this world is my Balls and my Word and I'm not breaking em for no one,- Tony Montana Team 6gc 2005 |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 4:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I disagree with this. FAQ's about certain topics as sticky's at the top of a forum are fine, however, I advise against making new forums which are further segmented. Go to mr2oc.com - they have all kinds of forums. The guy's in the 3sgte forum talk about everything there. They don't go out to the suspension forum when they have suspension questions. The same can be said for the N/A guys and their forum. On the other hand, SOME people are posting suspension questions in the suspension forum. This means that the information is segmented throughout the site which makes it harder to find while searching. It also means that you will not get exposure for your question by all members when you ask a question. Quite frankly, I think the broad categories of forums on 6gc is perfect - detailed enough to put you in the right place but not overly segmented. Perhaps Andason meant only FAQ stickys that are approved by moderators and cannot be supplemented by members through questions and answers. If so, that would address the segmented posting problem. However, why not put the stickies in the appropriate forum rather than creating an entirely new one? This post has been edited by jgreening: Jun 10, 2004 - 4:43 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 4:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Bingo. I don't really care about OT. The way I see it, if you don't like it, don't go in. Let Coomer mod it however he wants. I'm totally sick of the lack of new information and the proliferation of mis-information. There was a time that I cared and tried to do my part to correct these things, but now theres so much of it nobody can keep up. I've said to people many times: "If you don't know what you're talking about, don't offer an answer!!!" This is such a stupid thing to do and all it does it attempt to inflate the ego of the person trying to answer the question and spread misinformation. I don't have a problem with noobs asking questions (if they at least made an attempt to search) but what I can't stand is one noob trying to tell another noob how much they know when in reality they don't know ****. I suppose my oppinion on things is biased because this is what I do all day every day. Not to brag but I know more about cars and performance than many of the members on this site ever will. I think its sad that people like me (and there are others) don't want to help any more. Many people would probably be opposed to it, but I dont think it would be a bad idea to have a minimum age of 16 for the site. No offense to our 'quality' younger members, but it is often the younger members that cause the most problems. If you're too young to drive then maybe you don't need to be in our car forum? Anyway, thats all. I'm not sure that I'll be sticking around much longer. If anybody is interested in how the turbo project turns out you can follow updates on my website. I don't know when it'll be finished because I'm working or out off town so much, but its going to be very nice when its done. Peace out everybody. |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 5:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 29, '02 From Sterling Heights, Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Exactly how would you go about doing this? Ask for their credit info or something? I think it would be hard to filter out the "adults" or age vs. the "15 and under" members. I don't like the idea though, it's singling out others and there's no need to. All this is, is just having respect on this forum, regardless of the kind of ego you might have. Can't we all just get along? 
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Jun 10, 2004 - 5:46 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thats a great idea! is there a way you can add that to the parts database? an option to let people who have the part write a short, two or three line review about it? They can tell others what they think of it and maybe even say where they got it from. Sort of how we can leave messages on people profiles to compliment their cars, people can leave reviews in the parts database.... -------------------- Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it... |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 5:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
^^^
There is an area within the parts data base for members to leave comments and what not. |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 6:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Youre right, there is... I guess i never noticed it. Sorry for wasting space.. -------------------- Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it... |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 6:02 PM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I've mentioned it a couple times in the past, but perhaps it's time to work hard on this and add a form where if users have the part on their car, they can enter the place where they bought it, price(for the product itself, and also for installation, if applicable), and comments regarding the part. This info would show up on the page for the part, and then people could see who has it, and click a link to their profile to see more pictures and stuff.
My main concern is that after that's done, people won't use it, like the group buy feature that I spent 80+ hours of work on it. Granted, the group buy feature was poorly designed by me, but I still worry...would a lot of you guys use a feature such as this? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Jun 10, 2004 - 6:18 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thats one feature I would actualy use, I utterly forgot about the group buy feature.... I have many times wished for that and scrolled through peoples profiles to see items they had installed.
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Jun 10, 2004 - 6:24 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
there is a group buy feature!??!?!! i didn't even KNOW that and i'm running a group buy dang i feel stupid
oh and i don't doubt i've broken rules so sorry coomer |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 6:34 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
There was a group buy feature a while back, but it was poorly and inefficiently designed on my part, and so no-one really used it, so now it's gone. 
-------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Jun 10, 2004 - 6:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From Auckland, New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm in New Zealand and there is literally NO 6gc support around here. When I first came to this site I had nothing but praise for it and I still have nothing but praise. The strongest point about this website is that it creates community. Every community has its bad eggs - comes with having a population base. But I respect Coomers decision is strengthening the rules etc.
On another perspective, as adults we know better than to let worthless comments affect us IMO. But we should also know how best to deal with it (Ban/delete/block) - although would that pose as a logistic nightmare if trying to moderate accounts/dynamic IP blocks ?? - sorry.. think out loud 
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Jun 10, 2004 - 8:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, i didn't read ALL the pages, to much. But, basically, this is a 6TH GENERATION CELICA site. For our cars, the CELICA. There is no reason for these other forums. They can get on yahoo, or aol, or whatever they want and write and bit** about stupid crap there. They're taking up space, and give the site a bad name. This is a home for the 6TH GENERATION CELICA, and nothing else. And that kid discrimination thing, back off, that's the biggest bunch of bull i've heard in a while, and it really got my head steamed up.
--------------------  The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dō Kyōshan – “You can not be what you do not believe you are” |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 9:47 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
OK well since i've had time to sit down and read page 1, half of page 2, and page 4...i've gotten a pretty good sense of everything... i still consider myself a tiny bit of a noobie....i've been here for a lil over a year and i have learned 80% of what i know about the celica here...i've made friends here...i've learned to view other views that people have...basically i've learned ALOT here...that said i'm goin to get to the bone......
The off topic forum is pretty crazy i'll admit that but you can expect that craziness. But what one person thinks is crap another finds value...but yes there are those blatant STUPID posts....and people need to be held accountable. Then as SPEEDTOE has mentioned...age limit of 16.......THIS WILL DO NOTHING AT ALL...if you really look at it the issue of immaturity...its people that are OLDER than 16....i'm 18 right now but i remember getting bashed on just for being younger but thats not the answer age has nothing to do with it. The FAQ section is the best idea yet..i think that it should be on the forum "opening" page when you select the forum option from the side menu. GO defgeph! Coomer- this section is for you....I'm amazed at what you have done here. Your what 19?! and look at this crazy accomplishment of bring thousands of people from around the world together for one soul purpose...the celica....how many of us can say that? If you look at the forums as a whole then your doing really really really good....and i can understand your disappointment because this site is your baby...but we should really use that warning feature on here...does it work even?i see the lil warning bar but never seen it move on anyones thing... The Female issue......YES GIRLS GET BASHED ON....personally thats wrong....not cause they are girls and SHOULD BE treated nicely for that reason, but because they are part of the "family of celica owners" is why they should be treated nice...especially for Lori Ann since she IMMEDIATLY got bashed soon as she came here..i give her props for still being here. and the rest of you girls ROCK shoot i think the few of you have helped me just as much as the million guys here...but keep rockin on...and if a guy nails you hard then call him out to coomer or sumone...get it fixed All in all this is the only forum i've really been with....i'd never leave it cause i learn soo much and this place is like my online "home" and we should be like family.....not the leave it to beaver fam...but more of a that 70's show family...yea theres bickering and fighting heck thats human nature but we should all get along *GROUP HUG* lol jk on that one peace i'm out, YANG |
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Jun 10, 2004 - 11:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From TEXAS-1 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i did know alot if not everything about my celica before i learned about this site from my cousin dansst. but i did learn more about all celicas because of this site. i'm in the middle of my 3sgte swap right now, which i probably would not have began if it wasn't for this site. it is obvious that this site has done wonders for everyone here, so we should all be more thoughtful and greatful towards others seeing as how the people are what make this thing go. i totally respect Coomer and his dedication to this site, he slaves for all of us. and i don't think he goes to bed at night after reading the insults/bashing/degrating comments and thinks " damn i'm really glad i put all my time and effort towards creating a place for inconsiderate, self-absorbed jerks to express their rude and insulting thoughts and attitudes. yes!" do you?
i'm not picking on anyone in particular, but let me explain something. i've not posted a few times when i wanted because of the attitude around the topic at the time. i'm not afriad to argue, but that isn't what this site is about, i respect Coomers' wishes, so i say nothing. i also have not posted any picks of me and my G/F because of the disrespect towards girls. she is very beautiful and cute, so i do get the occassional " damn, that's your chic?" or "she's awesome" which i don't mind too much, comes with the territory. but the leg humping would really piss me off. so i just avoid it. by the way, i hope loriann does stay on board, she could really give the site some credibility, nationally. the OT forum has it's purpose, it makes me laugh sometimes, but it does get out of hand. warning system needs to be used more frequently. i also hope spedtoe stays, i'm actually going to put 7th gen brake setup on my 6cg because of his testament. this is a little long, and trust me i could go on but you get the point. Coomer- do as you wish, i'll still be here........R-03. |
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Jun 11, 2004 - 1:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 26, '03 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah some type of age limit restriction does nothing. I'm older then 3/4s the people here.
Also about the whole group buy thing the problem with that is that it was part of the main page which I visited maybe 3-4 times out of all the times I've come here. There is SO much more info in the forums which should be brought over to the main page. -------------------- i am awesome
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Jun 11, 2004 - 3:03 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 28, '02 From B.C. Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thats such a great idea, anything that helps pool our information can only stand to benifit the site. Besides it would cut down on the threads regarding basic products information. We've all had to do research into finding 6th gen parts and we know it can be a royal pain even finding a product nevermind compairing prices on different sites. I'd definatly use a feature like that! |
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