 Are turbos good for daily driving?? |
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 Jul 21, 2004 - 4:04 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I've been thinking about a 3s swap or a rebuild with a turbo. Im wondering wether having a turbo is good for a daily driver? Do those of you with turbos have otehr cars or use yours for a DD? What are the pros and cons you have found for using a turbo as DD?
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Jul 21, 2004 - 4:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 From Kirkland, Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
im not really a complete know it all by any means but IMO doesnt it really depend on what ur daily driving mileage is? I drive anywhere from 20 - 500 miles in a day (usually more around 40 a day on weekdays and about 200-800 on a weekend) so in my case i would probably need a DD substitute!
with my bros 7mgte swapped 84 supra i know that he will not be able to drive that car everyday cuz he works 40 mins away from work so in the long run it wont be good ont he car Seems to me that it would just be more expensive to maintain if u use ur turboed car as a daily driver and add a lot of miles! -------------------- Cruisin down the street in my Infiniti...always lookin for my next trip to Sin City
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Jul 21, 2004 - 4:22 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
in short -
No |
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Jul 21, 2004 - 5:53 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You see more turboed DD then I'm sure you know. A lot of cars people drive daily are boosted. A lotta volvos, Audis, any saab. Most my buddies are boosted and drive a lot on their cars. Nothing too bad yet.
But a turbo is another part. And that other part will need extra maintance. -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jul 21, 2004 - 7:05 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Turbos work fine for daily drivers as long as you don't stick too large of a turbo (with too high of a spool up time) on there.
The only thing you have to worry about is extra maintence. Actually, for highway/freeway drivin to and from work a turbo is ideal- your gas milage goes through the roof because you're never spooling, and have a ton more hp than before. |
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Jul 21, 2004 - 11:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 2, '02 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The 3s is perfectly fine for a DD...the turbos are small, and if you get an OEM BPV from a st205 or SW20, it will direct most of the air around the turbo during "off boost," which will ensure the prolonged life of the turbo and the engine.
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Jul 21, 2004 - 11:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
BPV doesnt vent around the turbo. the internal flapper wastegate does that. --------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 7:53 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
whats a BPV?
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Jul 22, 2004 - 8:06 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Bypass Valve
EDIT: to further explain A BPV is a modern day BOV (blow-off valve). Instead of sending air out the BOV when the throttle body is closed (like shifting) the BPV will recirculate the air back into the pipe after the MAF. The MAF already accounted for the air that went through the first time, so if you have a BOV and lose alot of air through it.. you have the chance of running rich. A BPV is completely silent whereas the BOV gush of air that you hear "the turbo make" after you shift. This post has been edited by turboinduction: Jul 22, 2004 - 1:29 PM |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 2, '02 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The wastegate prevents overboots K2. When too much exhaust is flowing it opens to prevent the turbo from choking and causing damage to both the engine and the turbo. The OEM BPV off of an ST205 or a SW20 bypasses the turbo at low RPMS, by doing this it keeps the turbo from spooling when it isnt needed. This in no way harms performance and only helps the longevity of the engine and turbo. There are no other BOVs or BPVs that have this "off-boost" mode, that is why the OEM BPV is considered the best option for the 3sgte. If you want more info go here Edit: Oh and turboinduction, its a Bypass Valve...not a Back Pressure Valve This post has been edited by Doge: Jul 22, 2004 - 1:18 PM |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol, I meant Bypass. BPV (Back Pressure Valve) is a term used on diesel trucks... which I sell. I was thinking one thing and typed another. I'll change it
 . My explaination was for a Bypass Valve though.
This post has been edited by turboinduction: Jul 22, 2004 - 1:31 PM |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:36 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i drive my car all the time and its turbo
 no problem yet 
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:37 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 2, '02 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Haha...yeah I figured you knew and just didn't realize you wrote it...back pressure valve sounds like it would be right since they operate on pressure fluctuations...I wasn't trying to make you sound stupid or anything, you odviously know what you're talking about.
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Turbos are fine for daily driving, they require more love tho.
Subaru makes what 4 or 5 turbo cars? Saab makes a bunch of turbo cars. Audi/VW have turbos, these arent performance machines (except for the STI) that are intended or DD. -------------------- |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I agree with everyone (since you all disagreed with me) that turbos can be DD. However, given a choice... I'd go with a N/A. Theres no advantage for a DD turbo over a N/A. Its always on boost and short trips of a DD with just destroy an engine. Dont jump on that. Now some turbos are ok, but seldom. If I had a controller to only run 5psi during DD.... hit me up. But if I had to run 16psi everyday like I did in my old eclispe... count me out. She sat at home til the weekends. Again... its just circumstances.
edit: thx doge This post has been edited by turboinduction: Jul 22, 2004 - 1:41 PM |
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Jul 22, 2004 - 1:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
yeah 5 psi for around town little trips then boost it up on the weekends 
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 22, 2004 - 2:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I am not an expert. That said, the technical guys over at mr2oc.com (Bill and others) maintain that you can set your jdm 3sgte on 14-15psi and "forget it" and it will have no adverse affect on engine longevity. Of course, you need to deal with the fuel cut issue.
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Jul 22, 2004 - 2:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Short trips will destoy an engine? Turbos dont destroy engines, people do. Turbo engines are designed to be driving everyday, with a TURBO ATTACHED. Unless your turning the boost up beyond safe limits, you can drive it everyday. -------------------- |
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Jul 23, 2004 - 1:11 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
just to sum up.
the turbo is o.k for d/d but boosting all the time will be harmful for the longevity of the engine. having a boost controller and setting up the low boost on 5-7 will be safer for the engine and prolly save money on gas aswell ? i've thinking about this for some time and i would like to have an answer to see whether i am getting a boost controller. This post has been edited by neoklis: Jul 23, 2004 - 1:11 AM |
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Jul 23, 2004 - 9:23 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Corona & Vallejo, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've been boosting 15 lbs for a long time now... DD... in traffic also, and no problems.
My brother has been boosting his MR2 at 14.5 for about 3 years now... no problems.  to people who think otherwise about a daily driven boosted car...
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