Sub in door: Sound quality???, Does it sound decent. Options

[urbandork]

Im almost positve that i have stock 8" speakers in my 95 gt 5spd with electronic contols/power windows. At least this is what i have been lead to believe from reading the other threads about speaker size and my own visual refrence of my own car.(planing on taking the panel off when get time to make sure tho). Hopfully its 8" and if its not o well.

My question isnt wether they will go in or not but rather how do they sound. Im not big on blasting my music and setting off car alarms in parking garages as i have my other friends to do that. lol

I much more enjoy the sound of my engine. Being so i want an amp that will supply a decent amount of bass. I also am wondering if i should jsut use the amp for the sub, the sub and speakers (i would have the rear and the small one above the sub), or the sub speakers and tweeters?

I was thinking if i run more then just the subs on the amp i should get two 250 or 300 watt amp and run one for each side of the car or just to opposite side speakers. But if im just running the amp for the subs alone jsut get one like 500 600w amp. Does this sound like a good idea? or is there a better way? Do i need a capaictor?

Last but not least even if all this stuff goes into my car i want to be sure that it sounds good. How many 6gc owners can testify for the 8" subs sound/bass quality when mounted in the door.

Ive also seen these plastic bowl type thigns that fit over the back of a speaker or small sub and allow it some protection from the ouside elemetns that may make their way on the inside of the door. They also allow for an enclosed space around the back of the speaker for better sound quality. Would a product like this work on my subs in helping them to retain the bass on the inside of the car rather raddleing the outside of my door?

Wow that was a rather long post
I really mean this:
thanks to all who help me out as im kinda lost on this subject (if you didnt already notice lol)

[shid]

[Coomer]

[shid]

[Coomer]

Yeah, infinite baffle is quite a bit of work. Personally, I'd go with a sub in the panel that's next to the backseat...with some creativity you could fit a 10" sub in there. You could put the amp across from it in the other panel too...I just put an amp inside of mine so that it's completely hidden.

[urbandork]

humm this sounds hard lol and expensive. I think i might jsut go with smaller speakers and a spacers.

is that teh best way to go

This post has been edited by urbandork: Jul 20, 2004 - 2:18 PM

[shid]

[Coomer]

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

if i were u i wouldnt even bother doing that. its a waste and a headache.. get some nice 2ohm subs and amps for each sub , ull get better results, subs in ur door are gunna rattle and also sound like poopie.

[urbandork]

I guess im posting because i really havnt been talked out of the 8 inch sub idea lol.

What do you guys think about each of the two subs being driven by a 50w or 100w amp. Something really low. After all im not looking for something that "bumps" loud and hard just something that a bit better bass effect then stock ones and/or 6.5 or 6.75 or speakers that can be put in with the use of a spacer.

I also have silicone and a nice large can of noicekiller foam from a company called quietsolutions. This foam is supose to be twice as effective as dynamat (sp?)




This post has been edited by urbandork: Jul 21, 2004 - 3:06 AM

[Drocay]

then wut u want subs in your doors for man.

[urbandork]

lol i figured that 8 inch low amp subs would get a better kick then 6.5/6.75's with no amp. Is this rong?? (probably is lol im such a nu b) If i do get the smaller speakers to replace teh 8" ones i wont be wanting to amp n e thing. Basically i thought/am thinking that the sub would be more bass-y if there is such a thing. You know something a bit more meater and since im not guna turn it up loud or amp it to high i wont have to worry about it rattling the door around to much plus i can always solve that with silicone.

(yes its a bit late and im tired lol thus made up words like bass-y)

Oh btw i found that plastic thing i was talking about b 4.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-DG6qxDyaddO/c...1&avf=N&search=

Its not plastic after all they are called foam baffles. Now that i read the discription im not to sure this would help the subs in the door sound n e better. Would they??

As for what sub i was thinking of something with the power range between 50 to 150w RMS and run it on one 50-100w 2 channel amp. Theres a place i know that im pretty confident i can get these thing pretty cheap if i pay cash. I know for sure i can get a pair of 6.4/6.75's for under 40, but saying i have subs would be nice he he.

Set me on the right track if my nu b @$$ needs to be

thanks in advance

[shid]

Yeah, you'll get more bass as long as the subs you buy take 50-100W RMS as their proper power range

But you know what? you'd be a lot better off buying something designed for midrange, like these kickers:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-q5mbcWXX0OW/c...1&avf=N&search=

Give them 150W each, build a system around them, and you'll be good.

[urbandork]

would they sound ok just alone and not with out changing my other speakers.

Is there a cheaper way lol j/w?

I did a search to c if i could find SSMB8 at a lower price and stumbled upon RMB8 for around 100 bucks a pair rather then the 250 ish for a pair of SSMB8's. Both their spec's are the same but there must be a diffrence between the two.

The only one i could find was in the cone. The SSM have a "Tri-Tech™ cone (sandwiched foam, polypropylene, and woven carbon fiber)" and the RM have a "curvilinear injection-molded polygraphite" cone. Whats the diffrence when it comes to sound quality.

Knowing that im not looking for something bling bling would it be a better idea to go with the cheaper RM instead of teh SSM's. and if so would i still be looking at giving them 100 to 150w each. (i can just use one two chan amp that puts out 100-150w per chan rite?)

heres the links to the RMB8's i found

http://www.discountave.net/rmki8midbaca.html
and
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=12137


Thanks for in the input shid i appreciate it. Hey btw is shid ur actual name cus i think theres a character on a anime show called cowboy bebop.

This post has been edited by urbandork: Jul 21, 2004 - 12:14 PM

[urbandork]

o and i forgot to ask.

So the amped mid range speakers will sound better then the amped sub? however the sub will have more "boom" feeling to it.

Thanks a bunch again for everything you guys here are so nice.

[Coomer]

Do you want to be able to play low frequencies like a sub plays, just not very loud? Or do you want more midbass?

[urbandork]

the first one. Something with a kick to it you know.

I would be looking for midbass if i was bulidign up a system but im not just looking forsomething that will go in my doors and have a nice kick/punch to it.

I have the rear speakers, smaller speakers above the 8" and tweeters so i figure taking out the 8" on the bottom and putting a sub in there would make for an ok blance of air movement and soundt quality espeically since im not running a lot of watts to the sub.

So which one should i go for the mid range speakers or the subs. If i get the subs ill probably only want to run 50 to 80w and at the most 100w to each. If i get the mid range bass speakers the perhaps illl run 150 or so to each.

[urbandork]

if i get these
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=12137
would i need to amp them to make them sound good or will they sound good on their own.


O it just hit me. What gauge wire should i use with the power im planning on supplying to either the sub or speakers? I dont want to get to small nor to big but just rite.



This post has been edited by urbandork: Jul 21, 2004 - 10:41 PM

[urbandork]

ive narrowed it down to these too

Kicker rmb8 mid bass speakers. With no sub (later if i want i guess i can add one)
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=12137

and

Kicker c8 8" subs (around 100w's via an amp)
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-f0PiyoalerU/c...1&avf=N&search=

Does n e one know if the rmb8's actually move air for that sub woofer feeling??

[Coomer]

If you're wanting that deep bass that subs provide, I'd go with the Comp C8 out of those choices, though it will be a ton of work to get them to sound good. You'll have to deaden the door a lot and seal off the holes inside the door to get them to sound good.

Also, you'll need to amp them to get much output out of them. You'll probably want a class D amp that provides max power at 2 ohms. A good amp may be something like a JBL BP150.1. There's one on eBay right now for around $40, and it's a good amp that'll probably put out 175 watts or so to a 2 ohm load.

Regardless of which way you decide to go, you're in for a whole lot of work to get low bass out of your doors.