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post Jul 29, 2004 - 12:58 AM
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post Jul 29, 2004 - 1:32 AM
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does anyone know if there is a difference between the GT and ST clusters? moltar already told me something about ABS and cruise control..can anyone clarify?
post Jul 29, 2004 - 1:41 AM
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QUOTE (tysO @ Jul 29, 2004 - 1:32 AM)
does anyone know if there is a difference between the GT and ST clusters?  moltar already told me something about ABS and cruise control..can anyone clarify?

i'm almost positive all clusters are the same. mine has the ABS light, but i have no ABS...which leads me to think they are just standard for all models/years...

it just wouldn't be cost effective for toyota to change something so minor for so many different applications...i'm gonna say they are all the same. smile.gif

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post Jul 29, 2004 - 11:15 PM
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post Jul 30, 2004 - 12:09 AM
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Difference is redline
post Jul 30, 2004 - 1:55 AM
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what's the difference in the redline?
post Jul 30, 2004 - 2:07 AM
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no difference in redline... both read 6200...


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 2:08 AM
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ooohhh yeah. i think the 5sfe redlines a little higher than the 7afe. however, if you have an operating tach in your cluster, and you are wanting his for another reason, the tach will come out (2 screws on the back i think, and a plug), and your GT tach will go right in, and yes, it will function properly. i have the JDM tach in my celica, and it redlines at 7500, but it reads the RPMs normally. smile.gif.


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 2:20 AM
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ok, now its time for me to clear all the thing up. John, you are not right saing that all the cluster are the same. I thought so before i started to deal with cluster. I bought a cluster from 97 ST, myne is 95 ST. everything is the same, even the warning lights are in the same positions, BUT wiring for warning light is different, so now i have Engine check light go up then my fuel is low, and instead of Engine light the Battery light lits up..... And as i did more research, i found that even the same year and NOT the same modification cars hade different cluster.

The Tach and Speedo and Temp and Fuel will work property, even if you install the KM/h cluster or JDM cluster (180 km/h). it will work propertly, but the difference MAY be in warning lights.


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 7:24 AM
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oh man..i wonder if i should just buy moltar's ST guage cluster and just put it in my gt. my speedometer guage is pretty messed up. i was trying to install reverse indiglo guages and i took off the needles..stupid me. anyone selling a GT guage cluster? smile.gif
post Jul 30, 2004 - 9:16 AM
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I think the only differences would be between 94-95 and 96+ models. Toyota updated a few thing in 96 on these cars. I dont think the GT and ST guages are any different from 94-95 or 96-99

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post Jul 30, 2004 - 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (bufferdan @ Jul 30, 2004 - 2:16 PM)
I think the only differences would be between 94-95 and 96+ models. Toyota updated a few thing in 96 on these cars. I dont think the GT and ST guages are any different from 94-95 or 96-99

Exactly corect...

OBD1 and OBD 2 have different wiring... which would explain Doggy's case.


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 2:56 PM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Jul 30, 2004 - 8:59 AM)
QUOTE (bufferdan @ Jul 30, 2004 - 2:16 PM)
I think the only differences  would be between 94-95 and 96+ models.  Toyota updated a few thing in 96 on these cars.  I dont think the GT and ST guages are any different from 94-95 or 96-99

Exactly corect...

OBD1 and OBD 2 have different wiring... which would explain Doggy's case.

Just in case... my car is 95... and its OBD II smile.gif Just like all the 96+.....


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 3:00 PM
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QUOTE (doGGy @ Jul 30, 2004 - 7:56 PM)
Just in case... my car is 95... and its OBD II smile.gif Just like all the 96+.....

really? that's weird... but then again... you're overseas...


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 3:03 PM
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redline is 5800 in an st kwanza and 6200 in gt I think, but I know my fuel cuts out at 6k so I am pretty sure they arnt the same redline smile.gif
post Jul 30, 2004 - 3:19 PM
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QUOTE (slipgun @ Jul 30, 2004 - 8:03 PM)
redline is 5800 in an st kwanza and 6200 in gt I think, but I know my fuel cuts out at 6k so I am pretty sure they arnt the same redline smile.gif

My cluster is 6200... my fuel cut is at 67xx...

If anything... the 7AFE will have a far higher redline than a 5SFE... simply because of the rod-stroke ratio of the engines...

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post Jul 30, 2004 - 3:28 PM
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QUOTE (slipgun @ Jul 30, 2004 - 1:03 PM)
redline is 5800 in an st kwanza and 6200 in gt I think, but I know my fuel cuts out at 6k so I am pretty sure they arnt the same redline smile.gif

what???? In St redline is at 6200 and myne fuel cuts at 7K rpm..... On euro GT's the redline is at 7K rpm...

about OBD thing...as long as i know only 94 here in euro had OBD I, and from 95 all the celis had OBD II...


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 4:55 PM
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Ill take a picture of mine tonight smile.gif im at work, im not crazy im sure.
post Jul 30, 2004 - 8:11 PM
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QUOTE (doGGy @ Jul 30, 2004 - 8:28 PM)
what???? In St redline is at 6200 and myne fuel cuts at 7K rpm..... On euro GT's the redline is at 7K rpm...

about OBD thing...as long as i know only 94 here in euro had OBD I, and from 95 all the celis had OBD II...

Yep... I heard the Euro ST had fuel cut at 7K... as for the GT... is it a 5SFE GT, 3SFE, or 3SGE? I'm just curious about trim models in Europe...

As for OBD... OBD1 6th gens were 94 and 95 (mine's OBD1)... and OBD2 one's came about with the facelift in 96+


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 10:12 PM
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damn -.- so that means i would have to buy a 94-95 gt guage cluster from the US confused.gif i hope someone wants to sell there's soon..

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