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post Jul 30, 2004 - 11:12 AM
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Does anyone have (prefereably close up) pics of a TWM short shifter? I'm pretty positive I'm getting one, just want to see how it looks. Also, I've been told that it will wear down the clutch faster than with the stock shifter? Is this true?
post Jul 30, 2004 - 11:38 AM
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not true about wearing down clutch, It might screw with the syncros , but thats it.. an it shouldnt even do that.
post Jul 30, 2004 - 11:47 AM
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post Jul 30, 2004 - 1:09 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 30, 2004 - 9:38 AM)
not true about wearing down clutch, It might screw with the syncros , but thats it.. an it shouldnt even do that.

what makes the possibility of screwing the syncros up a probability?

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post Jul 30, 2004 - 1:28 PM
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a short shifter will make it possible to shift faster then normal...so if you pound through the gears all the time, the synchros wont have time to synch. its not the short shifters fault...its just all about your driving style.


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post Jul 30, 2004 - 1:43 PM
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ain't that a possibilty even with the stock shifter given taht you shift fast.......but i guess the short shifter makes the problem occur more rapidly because it already is shifting with less movement and if you shorten that further by speeding up your shifts it'll worsen the problem....that makes sense right.
post Jul 30, 2004 - 10:36 PM
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you pretty much got it. I would like to know is it a common problem on celica or toyotas.. Cause everytime i shift it dosnt grind but it seems pretty tuff to put it in gear, like it takes a lil muscle, i mean not a ton or anything, but it seems like it should slip in a lil easier, think i should get some
post Jul 30, 2004 - 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 30, 2004 - 8:36 PM)
you pretty much got it. I would like to know is it a common problem on celica or toyotas.. Cause everytime i shift it dosnt grind but it seems pretty tuff to put it in gear, like it takes a lil muscle, i mean not a ton or anything, but it seems like it should slip in a lil easier, think i should get some

lube up your shifter and cables...if that dont help... i recomend pensoil synchromesh. i tried it in my swap and so far a love it...but i only drove the car a few min so far.


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post Jul 31, 2004 - 1:55 AM
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here a pic of my TWM with stock shift knob.


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post Jul 31, 2004 - 11:07 AM
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Another question, installing the short shifter, does this make it easier or harder to shift gears? (in terms of force applied), because ive been told a few different things. oh, what is throw exactly? confused.gif thanks Sev, thats exactly what i wanted smile.gif how hard is it to install the short shifter? an afternoons work?

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post Jul 31, 2004 - 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 31, 2004 - 3:56 AM)
QUOTE (Digndoug @ Jul 30, 2004 - 8:36 PM)
you pretty much got it.  I would like to know is it a common problem on celica or toyotas..  Cause everytime i shift it dosnt grind but it seems pretty tuff to put it in gear, like it takes a lil muscle, i mean not a ton or anything, but it seems like it should slip in a lil easier, think i should get some

lube up your shifter and cables...if that dont help... i recomend pensoil synchromesh. i tried it in my swap and so far a love it...but i only drove the car a few min so far.

Im guessing i can just use some grease right?.. Also The clutch was re-done about 11k ago, from a toyota mechanic.. so i dont think its the sync's
post Jul 31, 2004 - 11:37 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowFX @ Jul 31, 2004 - 9:07 AM)
Another question, installing the short shifter, does this make it easier or harder to shift gears? (in terms of force applied), because ive been told a few different things. oh, what is throw exactly? confused.gif  thanks Sev, thats exactly what i wanted  smile.gif how hard is it to install the short shifter? an afternoons work?

After i installed my shifter, it did require a little more muscle for it to go in gear. It feels like it locks into gear better than the stock one. I personally like the way it feels, wish i would have got mine a long time ago.

It only took about a good hour to install. If you have taken apart your center console before (where the E Brake is at) it makes things alot easier. I took the whole shift box out of the car and installed the TWM shifter outside of the car, then just put everything back in.

Bottom line is..... I love my short shifter and wish i would have got it a long time ago. I haven't talked to anyone who has one who doesnt like thiers. i think its a good invesment smile.gif

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post Jul 31, 2004 - 12:40 PM
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just put grease where they tell you, and put alot of grease on the ball part of the shifter, not so it pours out but work it around in the housing so it will move around easier. mine was stiff for a good hour but i sat at redlights with the clutch in and shifted 1 to 2 as fast as i could then back into 1 then to 2 (kinda like a beat off motion as fast as i could biggrin.gif ) and it worked the grease and what not into the joints. going into 5th is the only problem i have, its to far away so you have to push to far to get to it. since the shifter is shorter its more of a pain in the ass on my wrist since i have the leather covered armwrest.

theres the shifter throws with the twm shifter. its kinda ****ty photoshop but i was in a hurry and it gets the job done.

its in relation to neutral which is in the middle rolleyes.gif and you can see how far 5th is from the rest of the gears.
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post Jul 31, 2004 - 9:02 PM
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Ah alright, so what is meant by 60% less throw? also, does it make a difference whether my car is a LHD or RHD? Because in the product list, it lists LHD and RHD for 7th gen celicas, but not ours... last one - your all saying it takes a little more effort to put it into gear, they sell the short shifter with optional shift knob, like heavily weighted and everything, would this make it easier to shift?

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any ideas on the LHD, RHD thing?
post Aug 5, 2004 - 8:31 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowFX @ Aug 5, 2004 - 9:54 AM)
any ideas on the LHD, RHD thing?

There shouldn't be any difference.
post Aug 5, 2004 - 8:57 AM
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alright thanks, and what about the meaning of "60% less throw"?
post Aug 5, 2004 - 2:22 PM
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throw is how far it is between shifts. like the distance you need to "throw" the shift knob between 1st and 2nd. so the distance is 60% less after you put on the short shifter.


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post Aug 6, 2004 - 9:17 AM
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ahhh alright, what about if i bought a heavier shift knob, would this ease shifts?
post Aug 6, 2004 - 9:34 AM
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Short shifter and short THROW shifters are different. Short shifters are just shorter...the throw isnt shorter. Short throw shifters have a shorter throw and are usually shorter in height also.

All short throw shifters are going to be a little harder to shift because the pivoting point is brought up higher on the shifter which takes alittle more force to shift. They arent bad though. You will get used to it in no time.


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