intake question, about my intake setup |
intake question, about my intake setup |
Aug 7, 2004 - 9:58 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I bough an intake from 95celgt (legit seller...and good stuff btw)
In the kit...he gave me a tube to join the intake pipe (from a small exit halfway on the pipe) to the valve cover but when Ive installed the intake I tough that the tube was to connect the air temp sensor to the intake (isnt a bad idea, after all, I thinK...because the sensor fits really well in the tube and it looks to be stable there) I already have a tube goin from the intake throttle body to the valve cover..and my question is....should I remove that tube and join the intake to the valve cover with the tube that 95celgt gave me and then drop the sensor in the filter ...or just leave it like that and ill be fine??? |
Aug 8, 2004 - 11:39 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The little tube coming off of the long pipe going into the throttle body is for a vacuum line that runs to an inlet on the passenger side of the throttle body (I bought one from him as well and he provided a blue line for it). You need to drill a hole in your intake to install the air temperature sensor. Also did you buy the whole CAI or just the short ram? The complete CAI goes down into the fender after widening an existing hole. This will allow me to help you out a little bit better. And btw you might want to PM 95celgt about it. He might have made it different for you than me.
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Aug 8, 2004 - 2:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
no...it's a short ram ("S" shape) I know already all what you said....my question is: is it better for my engine to join the valve cover to the intake...like the red tube on this picture (not my engine btw): or the keep the valve cover joined to the throttle body (like stock) and use the 95celgt's tube to fit my air temps sensor (like im doing right now) if the first choice is better.....what do I do with the tube that join the throttle body to the valve cover? should I remove it and keep that throttle body exit unplugged? This post has been edited by HaRv3sTeR: Aug 8, 2004 - 2:05 PM |
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Aug 8, 2004 - 2:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Ive found a picture that explain better
that open valve...mine has a tube going from there to the valve cover.... If I put a tube from the valve cover to the intake...what do I do what that pictured open valve? This post has been edited by HaRv3sTeR: Aug 8, 2004 - 3:22 PM |
Aug 8, 2004 - 3:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Keep that tube going from the open valve to the valve cover. That is obviously not meant to be dealt with. In your case I would say just run your temp sensor inside of that little tube. You should be fine as long as you don't mess with any of those vacuum lines.
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Aug 8, 2004 - 3:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
so you say that I must keep my current setup... That 's what I want to do...but when I look at people profiles (who got intake)..they all have the tube going from the valve cover to the intake nipple..but I cant see what they do with that open valve...(not zoomed enough) I've read somewhere that I must put a small plug-in breather..but im not sure Im also wondering if I either lose power or damage my engine with my current setup im confused |
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Aug 8, 2004 - 6:00 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I will look at my engine bay here on my next break and see if I can better help you.
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Aug 8, 2004 - 7:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Okay, looking at my engine bay I see that the tube is just giving your valve cover some fresh air. It won't hurt it to run that tube to your new intake. Just make sure that you cap off the inlet at the throttle body if you choose to do so. It also is not going to hurt it if you keep it the way that it is. I'm sorry I couldn't give you a straight answer before but.....yeah... Hope that helps.
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Aug 8, 2004 - 8:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
that's what I wanted to hear... anyone can confirm this? |
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Aug 9, 2004 - 8:06 AM |
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ive had my injen setup like this pic for over a year now with no problems..
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Aug 9, 2004 - 10:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I heard that if I keep that throttle body nipple naked ...that the noise is too loud and not fun I prefer my setup...feeling safer |
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Aug 28, 2004 - 10:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 26, '03 From Minneapolis, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
There is also a nipple that hangs striaght down from the intake next to the throttle body. What is this supposed to be plugged into? Directions say to plug this into the stock vacuum hose but I don't know what that is.
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Nov 22, 2006 - 2:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
I found this post that relates to mine but here it does not answer the questions we both asked. Is there somebody that can tell us where everything goes cus there are no instructions that came with mine.
1. we know the hose from the valve that connects next to the TB can be connected to the intake next to the logo. 2. what happens now to that opening where we just disconnected that hose. 3. what do we do with the intake nipple that is towards the backside next to the TB. Some use breather filters. Sorry for the nagging, but I really think there should be a clear write up for this because it is surprising with my research that everyone has unique combinations on how they installed theirs like T connections, cappings, breather filters, where does where go, etc. What is really the right way to optimize or really how is it done correctly? Thanks This post has been edited by trdproven: Nov 22, 2006 - 2:41 AM -------------------- 94 Celica GT
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Mar 11, 2007 - 8:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 8, '06 From sun valley Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(trdproven @ Nov 22, 2006 - 2:40 AM) [snapback]504460[/snapback] I found this post that relates to mine but here it does not answer the questions we both asked. Is there somebody that can tell us where everything goes cus there are no instructions that came with mine. 1. we know the hose from the valve that connects next to the TB can be connected to the intake next to the logo. 2. what happens now to that opening where we just disconnected that hose. 3. what do we do with the intake nipple that is towards the backside next to the TB. Some use breather filters. Sorry for the nagging, but I really think there should be a clear write up for this because it is surprising with my research that everyone has unique combinations on how they installed theirs like T connections, cappings, breather filters, where does where go, etc. What is really the right way to optimize or really how is it done correctly? Thanks anybody know |
Mar 13, 2007 - 1:31 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
It really doesn't matter. What's screwing everyone up is that some 5S's [the older ones I think - IDK] have a vent from the valve cover [VC] to the throttle body [TB]. Some of them have a vent from the VC to the stock rubber intake pipe. Just run it the way you want but make sure all openings are capped and at least one line runs to the VC to vent the top of the engine.
As for your intake temp sensor - you can just leave it in the engine bay [I originally zip tied it to the strut tower brace] or better yet drill a hole and actually install it into the new intake [see my profile for it's current location]. Are the ones vented to the TB auto's perhaps? I know I have worked on at least one. Maybe Ngofcukingway's Camry which was auto. This post has been edited by Negative: Mar 13, 2007 - 1:33 PM -------------------- |
Mar 15, 2007 - 5:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 7, '07 From dallas texas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Negative @ Mar 13, 2007 - 6:31 PM) [snapback]535912[/snapback] It really doesn't matter. What's screwing everyone up is that some 5S's [the older ones I think - IDK] have a vent from the valve cover [VC] to the throttle body [TB]. Some of them have a vent from the VC to the stock rubber intake pipe. Just run it the way you want but make sure all openings are capped and at least one line runs to the VC to vent the top of the engine. As for your intake temp sensor - you can just leave it in the engine bay [I originally zip tied it to the strut tower brace] or better yet drill a hole and actually install it into the new intake [see my profile for it's current location]. Are the ones vented to the TB auto's perhaps? I know I have worked on at least one. Maybe Ngofcukingway's Camry which was auto. sorry this is off subject but where i got my cai u know where the air filter sticks out the fender, should i leave that plastic cover on or off the one infront of my tire? the black cover? sorry if its confusing -------------------- DRIVE UP..........
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Mar 15, 2007 - 6:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 22, '03 From Tracadie-Sheila, NB (Canada) Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE(jdmart @ Mar 15, 2007 - 10:56 PM) [snapback]536652[/snapback] QUOTE(Negative @ Mar 13, 2007 - 6:31 PM) [snapback]535912[/snapback] It really doesn't matter. What's screwing everyone up is that some 5S's [the older ones I think - IDK] have a vent from the valve cover [VC] to the throttle body [TB]. Some of them have a vent from the VC to the stock rubber intake pipe. Just run it the way you want but make sure all openings are capped and at least one line runs to the VC to vent the top of the engine. As for your intake temp sensor - you can just leave it in the engine bay [I originally zip tied it to the strut tower brace] or better yet drill a hole and actually install it into the new intake [see my profile for it's current location]. Are the ones vented to the TB auto's perhaps? I know I have worked on at least one. Maybe Ngofcukingway's Camry which was auto. sorry this is off subject but where i got my cai u know where the air filter sticks out the fender, should i leave that plastic cover on or off the one infront of my tire? the black cover? sorry if its confusing if i remember right, you must remove it if the piping size is over 2.5" to make it fit |
Mar 15, 2007 - 7:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 18, '04 From Silverdale, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
To clear some things up. The "vent" from the valve cover is the PCV valve. It needs to be connected to the intake in some form either the tube or the throttle body. The other fitting near the intake side of the throttle body should be the stock location and should be capped as long as the PCV hose is still connected to the intake. The engine expects this to be connected and if not the idle air control will have to open more to compensate for it. So either way make sure that the PCV is connected to the intake in some way and that you don't have an unfiltered vacuum fittings on you intake. Also the intake air temp sensor will not get the correct reading and the ECM will not have the correct fuel settings if the sensor is not in the intake tube for example at the end of a vacuum hose. If the ECM reads hotter air than is coming into the engine it will add less fuel (better mpg) and if it reads colder than what is coming into the engine it will add more fuel (maybe more HP or less mpg) either way I would recommend drilling a hole and putting the IAT in the intake tube.
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