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Doesn't a GT redline at around the same spot as an ST @ 6500 RPM or so??? Not to say it will make a difference, but I'm pretty sure it's at least around or in the 6's |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:04 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I disagree with this, 200whp is alot, i think u can win with alot less than that. I mean I have ~240 at the crank and I literally stomped on him without downshifting or ne thing, so I think u can def. win with less than 200 at the wheels. -------------------- |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:09 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lol, "you still look better at the finish line" Cuz that's what racing is all about right? Who looks better?
Once again Kwanza beats me to it. Yes, he'd own you like it was his job. I barely beat my friends's early 90s (CB7 chassis) F22 accord. I have time slips of us at the track and it was crazy close. Edit: Just so you know, F22's dont have vtec, and are sohc This post has been edited by SlowCelica94: Aug 10, 2004 - 10:09 AM -------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:30 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Minnesota, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah they redline at 6400rpm not 5800...check your redline marks on your tach man.
And trust me, dont underestimate CRX's. They're quick little cars. My WRX stock had problems at times running to the quarter with one and my first RX7 even had one CRX slip by it...so they are quick. Like everyone else said, don't waste your time or gas cuz you have no shot. -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
Dead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE 02 WRX --> This is for speed - Borla Exhaust - TurboXS BOV - Custom CAI 02 Civic EX - MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components - Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors - Alpine Type S Rear Fills - 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box - Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors - Alpine M605 on each Type R - Phoenix Gold wiring - Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit - Alpine Amp link - 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps - The best Viper 791 alarm install ever |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:33 AM
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I agree with you. 200 WHP is alot. I said 200 Flywheel HP, but stated it as FWHP. I guess you could misunderstand that as Front-Wheel. Bad abbr. Edit:
Damn straight. It really comes down to the size of the stereo. This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 10, 2004 - 10:35 AM |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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No use goin to red line though. Peak power hits at 5.6k. |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 10:59 AM
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I've ridden in a '88 Civic sedan with a B16A with cams, exhaust, header, cold air intake, lightened flywheel, and a stage three clutch, and man that thing pulled hard. I'm not sure how fast it is on the track, but I'm sure it would smoke my car.
I've also ridden in a '92 Civic coupe with a B16A with intake and exhaust, and I think it'd be a very close race between him and I. He told me to call him when I go to the track and he'll race me there, because he thought my car was about the same as his too. Too bad I've got a battery in the trunk without an externally-mounted kill switch, otherwise I'd definitely hit the track and race him.  But yeah, Honda's DOHC VTEC engines are no joke. They're really good engines that are pretty quick. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Aug 10, 2004 - 11:10 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
As talking about this subject of the b16's.. My buddies has a del-sol V-tec, stock with the b16 .. An his car is quick.. you think I would own him with a 3s-ge, non beams.. Cause his is quick enough for me.. but i would also love to beat him..
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Yeah thats what i thought you meant, misunderstood. -------------------- |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:31 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
I think u'd lose. -------------------- |
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Aug 10, 2004 - 12:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I raced my friends del sol Vtech. Yep, I lost. 3-4 cars me thinks. Till the top of third gear. Every time she hit high RPMs she pulled away like crazy.
EDIT: I might have lost by more. This post has been edited by LatinKraze: Aug 10, 2004 - 12:58 PM |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 12:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 18, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ya know, i raced a civic si the other day, and he BARLEY beet me, MAYBE a half of car length, and he didn't have that on me the whole time, we where teetering back and forth. i have a 95 st, if that helps anyone any.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 3:42 AM
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99+ model? if so, if probably wasnt really an SI -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 11, 2004 - 9:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
"Si" via auto store on a DX
Edit: Si almost has double the HP as your car This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 11, 2004 - 9:52 AM |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 11:31 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 18, '04 From Charlotte, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ya it was that body style(99), had an si sticker on the back, redlined at 7, i don't know of any other civic that does that, and the speedometer went kinda high i think it was like 160. and they aren't double the hp, they have like 160. an st on paper has 115. and the si's torque is ass, it's like 110, i have more then that. either way it was close, they aren't that fast so to the dude that started this post, go for it. turboinduction, if u dont' believe me check it : http://www.clubcivic.com/board/specs.php |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 11:34 AM
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99+ Civic SI's don't redline at 7k... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 11:36 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The guy in the 99 Si could have been a sucky driver tho. A sorry driver can make any fast car drive like garbage. Unless its auto, then they just floor it.
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Aug 11, 2004 - 3:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Well I have a problem I got a crx turbo wanting to race all I know right now is that it has a t3 intercooler at 6-7 boost and striped inside what you think my chances are???
 also i add a underdrive pulley bigger mid pipe and up the boost to 6.5 -7
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Aug 11, 2004 - 4:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Civic Si (1999) HP -160 MAX HP - 7600 TRQ -111 MAX TRQ - 7000 0-60 7.2 Seconds Curb Weight - 2601 Celica ST (1995) HP -110 MAX HP -5600 TRQ 115 MAX TRQ -2800 0-60 10.1 Seconds Curb Weight -2415 Now comes the year differences. Your model is a 1995 whereas this Civic must of been a 1999 or 2000. Hondas put considerable power to the wheels in reference to their flywheel horse power. They have incredible top end power (note the max HP at 7600rpm). Your car has aged and the difference WHEEL HP is a guess at 60-65. So let me rephrase and say that a Si will have 60-70% more power than a 95 ST. Initial torque of both is almost identical, however the max trq for the Celica comes very fast. If I were to guess how this match would look, it would go like this: Both start Civic will pull forward Celica will pull towards front of civic (not quite there) Celica will shift Civic will hit VTEC and top end Celica will squint to read Civic license plate Not that I like Civics (because I dont) but you cant expect to believe a base model Celica from the mid-90's will beat a 2000 top model Si. If this were the case my GT should keep up with the S2000. EDIT: I'm not trying to call you a liar Psyko, but alot of people on the website claim they can beat all kinds of impossible cars. "I beat a GSX, Type-R integra" etc etc. It may of been a young kid with no driving experience. In this case, I can beat them with a slower car just due to strong differences in driving abilities, though a highly unlikely case. This post has been edited by turboinduction: Aug 11, 2004 - 4:55 PM |
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Aug 11, 2004 - 5:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '03 From mississippi Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well I friend of mine that has a CRX and unless you have swap done he'd clean your clock bro, sorry. The CRX has more potential for speed it vey light(the lightest car honda made) canhold a more powerful engine. Sorry but I am just being honest. Next to the celica it is one my favorite cars.
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