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post Aug 15, 2004 - 4:47 PM
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yea a well driven ls1 fbody should be in the mid-high 13's...
what do rsx-s do stock round a high 15-low 16?
post Aug 16, 2004 - 12:48 AM
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QUOTE (o8poa8o @ Aug 15, 2004 - 9:47 PM)
yea a well driven ls1 fbody should be in the mid-high 13's...
what do rsx-s do stock round a high 15-low 16?

Spoken like a true ignorant person...

RSX-S runs high 14's low 15's STOCK... and they make crazy power with stupid bolt-ons... which means the motor is very very de-tuned from the factory. RSX-S's have been dynoed to gain 20 whp from something as simple as a Cold Air Intake...


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 1:01 AM
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Kwanza26 i dont think that its possible for a car to get 20whp just from a Cold Air Intake,no WAY...smile.gif
About the race....my spirit is with you Romas:)
I raced once RSX Type r with my GT-4,just for fun and until the next traffic lights i was 4 cars in front of him:)...
post Aug 16, 2004 - 1:03 AM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 15, 2004 - 10:48 PM)
QUOTE (o8poa8o @ Aug 15, 2004 - 9:47 PM)
yea a well driven ls1 fbody should be in the mid-high 13's...
what do rsx-s do stock round a high 15-low 16?

Spoken like a true ignorant person...

RSX-S runs high 14's low 15's STOCK... and they make crazy power with stupid bolt-ons... which means the motor is very very de-tuned from the factory. RSX-S's have been dynoed to gain 20 whp from something as simple as a Cold Air Intake...

There's no need to be mean. He was just kind of asking if they ran around high 15s or low 16s. wink.gif


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 1:12 AM
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QUOTE (Magic @ Aug 15, 2004 - 11:01 PM)
Kwanza26 i dont think that its possible for a car to get 20whp just from a Cold Air Intake,no WAY...smile.gif
About the race....my spirit is with you Romas:)
I raced once RSX Type r with my GT-4,just for fun and until the next traffic lights i was 4 cars in front of him:)...

yeah.. aem CAI adds 15whp..

hondata upgrade/exhaust/header and you're looking at some nice gains. it actually does respond well to bolt ons.
post Aug 16, 2004 - 1:31 AM
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QUOTE (Coomer @ Aug 16, 2004 - 6:03 AM)
There's no need to be mean. He was just kind of asking if they ran around high 15s or low 16s. wink.gif

I'll apologize for that. I get kinda grumpy when people just go off on something because it wears an "H" badge... at least in a way. Anyways... yeah... for those who care and wanna know... we at Thao's Smog Automotive have a K20A2 (RSX-S motor) powered 03 Civic SI that will easily lay down a low 14 second pass on street radials.

Story: We did a Jackson Racing Supercharger Install on an 04 Civic SI yesterday (saturday 14th) and even at 6 psi of boost, the car we did the install on was pulled 4 cars by my cousin's 03 K20A2 Civic SI (with CAI, Header, exhaust, and Hondata). I have pics of the install... and it's proof that even a bigger torque band will need many other things to win in a race... and that horsepower definately plays a role in drag racing... I will agree, that a well driven and built LS1 camaro will beat an RSX-S just with shear overwhelming power and torque... but that's not saying there's no way an RSX-S can beat a Camaro. Have you even seen a fully built LSVTEC Civic hatch with stage 2 Toda valvetrain run down a built 13 second Supercharged 5.0 Mustang? I have... and seeing is worth more than imagining...

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post Aug 16, 2004 - 1:33 AM
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QUOTE (Magic @ Aug 15, 2004 - 10:01 PM)
Kwanza26 i dont think that its possible for a car to get 20whp just from a Cold Air Intake,no WAY...smile.gif
About the race....my spirit is with you Romas:)
I raced once RSX Type r with my GT-4,just for fun and until the next traffic lights i was 4 cars in front of him:)...

AEM V2 intake for the RSX type S adds 18.5 whp

at the peak

and through out the powerband it has great gains.

its not a bad car, but my ST-T was faster, faster than the type S, and faster than my WRX from a roll.

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post Aug 16, 2004 - 1:46 AM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 15, 2004 - 10:31 PM)
Have you even seen a fully built LSVTEC Civic hatch with stage 2 Toda valvetrain run down a built 13 second Supercharged 5.0 Mustang? I have... and seeing is worth more than imagining...

i havent,

but i saw a stripped hatch with drag slicks and a jdm H22 running open exhaust at LACR, which is a crappy track, and at high elevation

it ran 13's all night

not sure if anything was done inside the engine, but it hauled


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 2:26 AM
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HAHAHAH guys this tread is growing quickly smile.gif Well, my friend and i are still debating whos gonna win too smile.gif) Well, we can talk about this for hours, but we gonna wait and see smile.gif


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 8:52 AM
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*UPDATE* Well my race is on hold my friend just got something new i dont know what. He said it was a surprise for our race and now he whats to put money on the race.


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 5:52 AM)
*UPDATE* Well my race is on hold my friend just got something new i dont know what. He said it was a surprise for our race and now he whats to put money on the race.

well, you have an upgraded fuel pump, so you could definately raise the boost to help

but you are probably running very rich right now

what kind of gauges do you have?

do you have an AFR gauge to get a ballpark idea of where you are AFR wise?

if you do, raise the boost to 10psi for the race, and put 1 or 2 petco check valves on the vacuum line that goes to the FMU, using a AFR gauge, just make sure you dont see any red by testing it before the race

that way you can have a suprise for him

did he already have intake and exhaust? after that, mods for taht car start to get $$$, he could have gotten a header, or a reflashed ECU

either way, it is possible that he could have gotten a worth while mod.

and thats exactly why you should kick it up a notch

how much money does he want to bet?

oh wait a minute

i just noticed that you have 2.25inch exhaust

REMOVE IT, if you have a cat still, unbolt that too, and just run midpipe

nothin hit harder on my ST-T than when i drove around with open DP

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post Aug 16, 2004 - 12:05 PM
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not to much 50 for now i need to gut my cat i running pretty rich right now timing is 6 (normal being 10) little problem i was running 7-8 psi yesterday and i'm getting smoke under boost i replaced the pcv valve helped for a while now the smoke is back any ideas??


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:05 AM)
not to much 50 for now i need to gut my cat i running pretty rich right now timing is 6 (normal being 10) little problem i was running 7-8 psi yesterday and i'm getting smoke under boost i replaced the pcv valve helped for a while now the smoke is back any ideas??

do a compression test and check for shaft play in the turbo.


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 12:42 PM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 16, 2004 - 10:32 AM)
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not to much 50 for now i need to gut my cat i running pretty rich right now timing is 6 (normal being 10) little problem i was running 7-8 psi yesterday and i'm getting smoke under boost i replaced the pcv valve helped for a while now the smoke is back any ideas??

do a compression test and check for shaft play in the turbo.

or should i do a leak down test i think i might have an oil leak in my turbo


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 4:13 PM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 16, 2004 - 6:31 AM)
I'll apologize for that. I get kinda grumpy when people just go off on something because it wears an "H" badge... at least in a way.

confused.gif I wasn't going off on it. I drove a 90 prelude for awhile, and my friends got a integra gsr (w/ vtec is it gsx or something?), and a kid i know has a 94 prelude Si w/ catback, cai, and maybe a few more small mod's, and he beats this kid w/ a brand new eclispe gts all the time... i have much respect for honda/integra's (sometimes not for fart canned civic's), and i seriously didn't know what a RSX-S runs, i was guessing that they would run around a high 15, which isn't bad, im sorry if im ignorant i've just never really looked at a RSX so i dont know there stat's or times.
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Yea 97 quick Q.. Did you retard your timing at all???? If so how much, what was your timing set at running boost?? Thanks bro
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QUOTE (hyp3rk1d @ Aug 16, 2004 - 5:55 PM)
Yea 97 quick Q.. Did you retard your timing at all???? If so how much, what was your timing set at running boost?? Thanks bro

since i have a 97 celica, it had obd2, no way to change the timing, but the ECU controls it based on sensor inputs

so it things get hot, or if too much knock is detected, then it retards timing.

you have a 94, so you can retard the timing, and i suggest retarding it like 5 degrees

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post Aug 16, 2004 - 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:42 AM)
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not to much 50 for now i need to gut my cat i running pretty rich right now timing is 6 (normal being 10) little problem i was running 7-8 psi yesterday and i'm getting smoke under boost i replaced the pcv valve helped for a while now the smoke is back any ideas??

do a compression test and check for shaft play in the turbo.

or should i do a leak down test i think i might have an oil leak in my turbo

check for shaft play, if there is shaft play in the turbo, thats where the smoking is comming from.

does your boost gauge read vacuum? a healthy internals 7afe should read 20 inches HG at idle, if its less than 20, something with the rings or valvetrain is leaking somewhere


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post Aug 16, 2004 - 11:37 PM
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QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:42 AM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 16, 2004 - 10:32 AM)
QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:05 AM)
not to much 50 for now i need to gut my cat i running pretty rich right now timing is 6 (normal being 10) little problem i was running 7-8 psi yesterday and i'm getting smoke under boost i replaced the pcv valve helped for a while now the smoke is back any ideas??

do a compression test and check for shaft play in the turbo.

or should i do a leak down test i think i might have an oil leak in my turbo

if the turbo has shaft play, then thats where the smoke is comming from, leak inside the turbo

do you have any pictures of your PCV setup, well, actually your whole setp?

email them to me so i can get a look at what exactly is done with the pcv system.


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post Aug 17, 2004 - 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:37 PM)
QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:42 AM)
QUOTE (97sccelica @ Aug 16, 2004 - 10:32 AM)
QUOTE (nik @ Aug 16, 2004 - 9:05 AM)
not to much 50 for now i need to gut my cat i running pretty rich right now timing is 6 (normal being 10) little problem i was running 7-8 psi yesterday and i'm getting smoke under boost i replaced the pcv valve helped for a while now the smoke is back any ideas??

do a compression test and check for shaft play in the turbo.

or should i do a leak down test i think i might have an oil leak in my turbo

if the turbo has shaft play, then thats where the smoke is comming from, leak inside the turbo

do you have any pictures of your PCV setup, well, actually your whole setp?

email them to me so i can get a look at what exactly is done with the pcv system.

user posted image

i just replaced the pcv valve ...
the hose are just like they are as oem (connected to the manifold)
should i disconnect them from the manifold and Y connect them and run it to a catch can?? and just plug the manifold holes ? like zipstrip
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