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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
just change the turbo man, youll regret it otherwise in terms of performance
-------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Aug 30, 2004 - 10:23 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i've seen plenty of ct26's and they look to be a little bigger than the turbos on sr20 engines i have seen well, both look big when compaired to the turbo on my WRX -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Aug 30, 2004 - 10:38 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 3, '04 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
props dave
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Aug 30, 2004 - 10:47 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Every year of the SR20DET blacktop and redtop the A/R ratio of the turbine housing its .64mm, the CT26 is .49, considerably smaller. -------------------- |
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Aug 30, 2004 - 10:55 AM
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 good job man...im sure with a harder launch and lighter wheels w/sickys, you'd be into the 13's!man,..i need BOOOOOOST..dave, wanna do a harness for me?? 
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Aug 31, 2004 - 12:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '02 From Columbus, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
When I ran at the track, boost levels from the ct26 would drop for 15 psi to 13psi. However, you have to understand that having a big FMIC adds a pressure drop. Therefore the turbo is working harder and actually pushing 17psi and it's falling off like crazy. My stock ct26 could consistently hold 13 psi.
I just switched to a t3/t4 setup. The 3sgte has much potential. If you are looking for 11's go buy an inline 6 and dump another 5k into it. For the potential, price, and being FWD you can't beat the 3sgte swap. You'll have close to the same 1/4 mile time on a FWD car for less than half the price. |
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Aug 31, 2004 - 6:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
yea, an old civic with the h22 swap would Probably be in the same area speed wise, but I see swaped hondas Everywhere. Celicas are different.
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Aug 31, 2004 - 8:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 1, '03 From LB gizzie, cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
DG:: 13-16psi on a 3sgte w/ gt tranny? how much hp can a s54 tranny hold exactly.. couple of shops such as Elprototype told me that s54 is only good for about 200whp.. i mean.. how did you pull it off, running 15 psi and all?
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Aug 31, 2004 - 8:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Anaheim, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ah, never saw the turbine housings heat shields in the way, nor did i bother to look into it further -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 1, 2004 - 3:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 21, '03 From Pennsylvania Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
i did not do anything special to the car to run it as it is right now? i just dont beat on my car every day and run it into the ground like some other people might after getting excited about all the new power.
like i said..... i eased off the line and then got on it at the track. i just try to take care of my car as best i can i guess? and i dont know how but my boost will hold fine at 17psi so???? it was a cold night the time i did it but i dont plan on running 17 psi again any time soon . dg --------------------  |
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Sep 1, 2004 - 4:57 PM
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Ok - I'm not naming names but we have an 5th gen alltrac and a 6th gen GT2 in our club and both are stock (obviously the GT2 isn't but there have been no upgrades to the engine - MR2 tranny though). The alltrac is very fast - much faster than my GT lightly modded low mileage. However the GT2 has proven it's ability to smoke Turbo Supras in the quarter mile by 2 car lengths or more (the Supra's are stock to lightly modded and well driven by people who know their cars). I'm not sure what his times are but the 3s swap is sooo worth it - mines coming very soon. You guys can get discouraged if you want but after seeing a GT2 in action with a great driver, I can say that the GT4/alltrac has too much lag due to power loss in the drive train. I'll take a GT2 anyday. And your never going to get an 11 sec car if 300 seems like to much to waste for you. Have fun with your "slow" cars. --------------------  |
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Sep 1, 2004 - 8:35 PM
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Heh... both you guys make it sound like 11 seconds is a very easily attainable number... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Sep 1, 2004 - 8:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
People would be talking differently if it was their swapped car they had to worry about the tranny in. Congrats man thats an awesome time. People talk big when its not their money... upgrade the tranny, the turbo, **** why not just drop in a 6 cyl. P.s. Slow... is determined by the user. Personaly, I find 14's very fast. Actualy... all you 11 second cars are slow, because there are 9 second cars, so enjoy your slow cars
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Sep 2, 2004 - 1:09 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 1, '03 From LB gizzie, cali Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hahahha... true true... i think 14's is fast.... the people who think is slow just never been in a 14s sec. car before... keep in mind its a motor from what? 90-92? i think its still up to date when it comes to speed when comparing to turbo cars now a day.. such as the wrx, srt4, etc... i mean don't those car run 14s? and don't they cost 25,000 grand? i built my car for less than 10,000 including the car itself and its so worth it.. and those who want to do 11s.. go to the 1/8 track...
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Sep 2, 2004 - 1:42 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 17, '03 From lakewood, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
for all those thinking 14s is slow you guys are pretty dumb. i'm doing a 5s turbo and i'm hoping to be in the low 15's or mid 15's and that's quick to me. do you even know what your talking about to be hitting 11 seconds. seriously you guys need to consider the fact what little work he has done to the engine and to still be able to hit 14's. congrats on the time and for the other peps talking about they're disappointed with the swap they need to have one to be able to talk cause i've been in one and it is fast.
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Sep 2, 2004 - 7:07 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeah if you're driving in a straigfht line!
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Sep 2, 2004 - 4:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Very true. The GT4 will out perform the GT2 in cornering. However has anyone come across a turn the could not take in their american domestic market GT? I have picture of my car's gauge cluster hitting 133MPH @ 7000RPM's (yes I was bouncing off the rev limiter at that point - had to take several shots to catch it at 7000) on a banked "s" curve located near my house. Several friends witnessed it and were amazed at how flat the car was during the turn and how smooth and effortless it was inside (I had one friend inside). So unless you are planning to take some seriously sick corners I think the FWD is just fine. This is just my .02 and no I don't feel like going thru the hassle of proving it to anyone on this site. If you want proof - hit me up on www.houstontoyotaclub.com - several of the witnesses regularly post there and one even hit it at 132MPH in a 7TH gen GTS 6-speed to try to break my record. My record still stands! -------------------- |
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Sep 3, 2004 - 8:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Your comparing a stock 135hp GT to a ST185 or ST205 and you think the GT has any chance to compete, at all?
I havent come across any turns I couldnt take, however I had to slow down considerably to take them, IMO the GT has a very crappy suspension. Now I havent driven an ST185 and def. not an ST205 but I haven driven AWD cars before and the fact that they are AWD makes a gigantic difference. You took a banked turn at 133mph by ur house? Now I dont wanna get into the stupidity of this move on local roads but hell thats one weak ass turn, take a pic of it I'd like to see. The ST185/ST205 will do nothing less than own a GT on every aspect of driving, no matter if its a crappy driver or not. Stock suspension has poor body roll IMO and I'm actually looking to stiffen it up considerably because I'm so unhappy with it. Also, I maybe jaded by the 350z suspension and my friends 2.5RS suspension (real suspensions) but my GTs (1.75''drop/215mm tires) is mediocre. I'm confused when you say that the GT-Four/Alltrac has too much lag due to power loss of the AWD setup. Is this turbo lag or what, its vague. I'd like to see the vid of a GT(2) outlaunching an ST185. -------------------- |
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Sep 3, 2004 - 9:50 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Hollywood, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i know in maryland at the track if your under 14 second quarter mile your sposed to wear a helmet at the track and if your under 12 you have to have a rollcage/helmet both or your disqualified.
14 seconds is hella fast, im not gonna bother trying to find who said it wasnt fast cause i dont want to flame them personally , but im pretty sure they are a moron. |
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Sep 3, 2004 - 6:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '03 From Atlanta Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i think he is refering to the hp loss due to the fact that its AWD. any engine will have more whp in a 2wd than in a AWD setup. |
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