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> Ran my 3sgte at the track, 1/4 mile time
post Sep 4, 2004 - 7:25 AM
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Very true. The GT4 will out perform the GT2 in cornering. However has anyone come across a turn the could not take in their american domestic market GT? I have picture of my car's gauge cluster hitting 133MPH @ 7000RPM's (yes I was bouncing off the rev limiter at that point - had to take several shots to catch it at 7000) on a banked "s" curve located near my house. Several friends witnessed it and were amazed at how flat the car was during the turn and how smooth and effortless it was inside (I had one friend inside). So unless you are planning to take some seriously sick corners I think the FWD is just fine.
This is just my .02 and no I don't feel like going thru the hassle of proving it to anyone on this site. If you want proof - hit me up on www.houstontoyotaclub.com - several of the witnesses regularly post there and one even hit it at 132MPH in a 7TH gen GTS 6-speed to try to break my record. My record still stands!


then you need to come to england my friend and ill show you some proper roads!!


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post Sep 8, 2004 - 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (BEEFSTEW800 @ Sep 3, 2004 - 11:17 PM)
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I'm confused when you say that the GT-Four/Alltrac has too much lag due to power loss of the AWD setup. Is this turbo lag or what, its vague.

i think he is refering to the hp loss due to the fact that its AWD. any engine will have more whp in a 2wd than in a AWD setup.

Exactly.


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post Sep 8, 2004 - 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Sep 4, 2004 - 12:25 PM)
then you need to come to england my friend and ill show you some proper roads!!

I'd love to - can I borrow your GT4? wink.gif
Actually - do they have places there where you can rent GT4's. That would be cool. We have places here where you can rent anything from an original HumV to a Ferrari to a Supra TT. Course it's so expensive I've never actually done it but would be fun.


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post Sep 8, 2004 - 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (uzthedentist @ Sep 4, 2004 - 4:25 AM)
then you need to come to england my friend and ill show you some proper roads!!

while a lot of American roads are for the most part straight

there are two roads withing 3 miles of my house that are about 30 miles long with only 1/8 mile long straight aways used for passing lanes every 7-10 miles.

stock usdm celica handles very well

but it does have too much body roll. it needs bigger swaybars, just like my WRX, the rear sway bar is puny on my car.


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post Sep 8, 2004 - 1:16 PM
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is 6th gen and 5th gen sway bar the same?
post Sep 8, 2004 - 1:34 PM
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my stock body roll isn't bad at all.....just lowered no other suspension upgrades at all.....
but celica cornering vs wrx handling = celica would win....
i took a wrx last night on a left turn exit ramp that was long sweeper.....i was on the outside he/she was on the inside and i flew around him/her
post Sep 10, 2004 - 6:06 PM
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 8, 2004 - 6:34 PM)
celica cornering vs wrx handling = celica would win....

Agreed - I own on my friend's WRX in the corners all the time. Of course the turbo really makes up for it and he usually comes out on top. Oh well I'll be 3s soon enough. Not done playing with the 5s yet though.
BTW - mine just has the Eibach Sportline drop and the stock strut tower brace (had to add it because the '99's didn't get them to improve the ride quality for housewives etc. - my '95 had it and that was the first thing I noticed when I got my new one - really sucks in the corners without one - I have the TRD one also but it gets in the way of sparkplug replacement which I do at least twice a year and it makes almost no difference from the stock one) at the moment.
ALL CELICAS handle beautifully when compared to other cars - we are just all spoiled. Let one of your friends drive your car and they will rave about the handling I bet.


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post Sep 10, 2004 - 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (Negative @ Sep 10, 2004 - 3:06 PM)
QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 8, 2004 - 6:34 PM)
celica cornering vs wrx handling = celica would win....

Agreed - I own on my friend's WRX in the corners all the time.

as of this moment,

my celica ST handles better than my wrx, mainly because the stock tires are so crappy. also, the front sway bar is almost twice as thick as the rear sway bar.


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post Sep 11, 2004 - 1:49 AM
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uzthedentist , your car is not a coupe.. can the admins correct all these guys with gt-4 coupes... or am i an ass , and the gt-4 comes in a coupe... i was positive it only came hatchback... i remember going threw the so called "GT4 Coupes" and finding only hatchbacks and coupes with 3s swaps..

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post Sep 11, 2004 - 4:16 AM
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yea gt-4 came in hatchback only
post Sep 11, 2004 - 3:02 PM
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QUOTE (celicaboston1983 @ Sep 8, 2004 - 6:16 PM)
is 6th gen and 5th gen sway bar the same?

I don't think so - from what I could tell when we were replacing my friends from a junk yard the 5Th gen bolt pattern is different and is thicker than the 6th gen's. Other than that they looked identical - same bends in the same places etc.


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post Sep 11, 2004 - 3:35 PM
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QUOTE (XXX_Mina @ Sep 11, 2004 - 2:49 AM)
uzthedentist , your car is not a coupe.. can the admins correct all these guys with gt-4 coupes... or am i an ass , and the gt-4 comes in a coupe... i was positive it only came hatchback... i remember going threw the so called "GT4 Coupes" and finding only hatchbacks and coupes with 3s swaps..

Mina

hatchbacks are often called coupes in the uk. hence the misunderstanding.
post Sep 11, 2004 - 7:46 PM
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Negative is right... the bar is deffinetly thicker cause i was gonna take the one off the clip i had and try to use it.
never got to get to that b4 i trashed the clip.


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post Sep 11, 2004 - 8:07 PM
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QUOTE (DG_Performance @ Aug 29, 2004 - 2:08 PM)
why do you say that?  do you have a 3s?   
i feel a huge diff from 10 psi to 15 psi so i dont know why you would think that....

you rule dg

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post Sep 11, 2004 - 9:19 PM
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QUOTE (DG_Performance @ Sep 12, 2004 - 12:46 AM)
Negative is right... the bar is deffinetly thicker cause i was gonna take the one off the clip i had and try to use it.
never got to get to that b4 i trashed the clip.

so would a swapped 5th gen handling be better then a 6th gen
post Sep 11, 2004 - 9:42 PM
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 11, 2004 - 2:16 AM)
yea gt-4 came in hatchback only

i remember watching the initial d movie...and the gt4 was a COUPE... unless that's a fake or whatever
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post Sep 12, 2004 - 3:04 PM
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QUOTE (celicaboston1983 @ Sep 12, 2004 - 2:19 AM)
QUOTE (DG_Performance @ Sep 12, 2004 - 12:46 AM)
Negative is right... the bar is deffinetly thicker cause i was gonna take the one off the clip i had and try to use it.
never got to get to that b4 i trashed the clip.

so would a swapped 5th gen handling be better then a 6th gen

Not necessarily... the bar is thicker cause the car is much heavier...


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post Sep 12, 2004 - 4:19 PM
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'd love to - can I borrow your GT4? wink.gif
Actually - do they have places there where you can rent GT4's. That would be cool. We have places here where you can rent anything from an original HumV to a Ferrari to a Supra TT. Course it's so expensive I've never actually done it but would be fun.


nope never seen a place where you can hire gt4s. Although there are rally days where you can drive modified imprezas on the rally track

mina in the uk 3 doors are called coupes. the celica is a coupoe as is the 350z. The hyundai tiburon is called the hyundai coupe over here lol.


from the toyota website

Introducing the Celica

Distinctive, sleek and exciting, the Toyota Celica as been designed for those who appreciate quality styling with performance and handling to match.

A 2+2 sports coupé - in every sense, it has been specifically engineered to deliver power and stability, together with excellent fuel consumption, a comfortable ride and a surprising amount of space.

Whichever of the two engines you choose, you'll be rewarded with a driving experience that's totally satisfying. The Celica - unmistakably individual.

£16,645 to £21,145...





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From the mazda website

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MAZDA RX-8 CLAIMS AUTO EXPRESS 'BEST COUPÉ' TITLE
(4/8/2004, London)




The Mazda RX-8, already hugely successful since its introduction to the UK, has claimed the 'Best Coupé' title in the 2004 Auto Express awards. This latest accolade is the 25th award won by Mazda RX-8 globally and its third major UK award of the year, after claiming the 'Best Coupé' awards given by What Car? and Top Gear magazines.


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Corsa Expression   
  3-door hatchback 
 

  Impressive specification matched to a choice of fuel-efficient petrol or diesel engines with amazingly low insurance group ratings, adding up to ultra-low running costs. 



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and the citroen website

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NEW C2


£7,895 OTR to £11,995 OTR †


To experience the fantastic New C2 in more detail click here...

The New C2's eye catching and individual good looks are set to cause more than a few waves. The distinctive and contemporary styling convey an individualistic and adventurous little character. The C2 is Citroën's hot new contender in the 3 door supermini market.
 
    And not only has the C2 head-turning good looks and jaw-dropping style: the latest C2 VTS model is now set to storm our city streets. Naturally, this one’s a looker, but our spot on handling and cool performance also set this car from other hot hatches– it’s quite some mover, too.



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still wanna call ytour car a hatchback? lol

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post Sep 12, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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thats it....my car's a coupe now..jk
i honestly could care less if people call my car a hatch or a coupe..
but gt4s does come in coupes...initial d says so biggrin.gif


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post Sep 13, 2004 - 1:41 PM
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ok, back on topic. besides its technically a "latchback" tongue.gif

thats a great time DG, i ran my car yesterday, and when i bogged i ran a 14.5 and a 14.6, when i got a fairly better start at 3K i ran a 14.1, with plenty of room to improve. so looks like we both have great baseline numbers to improve on biggrin.gif

what kind of problems are you having if any?
ive got 4 things that i know will drastically improve my times
1)practice, that was my first time drag racing ever
2)heat soak, if i get a new IC and fab up a heat shield around the turbo that will improve things alot
3) im still runing the factory primary cat and a 2.5" exhaust, i plan on getting a TKO 3" downpipe and dual exhaust. that should open things up big time.
4) tuning, still on the stock computer with no tuning whatsoever... that will change things big time.


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