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> mass air flow meter, do i need a certin one?
post Aug 31, 2004 - 7:23 PM
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im looking at buying a 3rd gen 3sgte the only problem is its missing the mass air flow meter do i need a certon one if i do where can i get one and aprox how much do they cost?
post Aug 31, 2004 - 7:33 PM
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depends on where u get it. Try ebay and try
http://alltrac.net/phpBB2/index.php?sid=e9...4ff6fc545958b87

From the dealer its $400, try to find it on ebay, and I think theres possibility of using an RX7 AFM but it'll require more rewiring.


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post Aug 31, 2004 - 8:24 PM
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aren't the 3rd Gen 3SGTE's MAP sensored?


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post Aug 31, 2004 - 8:59 PM
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I'm helping Goatrunner do the swap and I too was wondering if the car is a speed density setup or if it is a mass air style. I am not really familiar with Toyota's or anything that is special to them. I am a GM tech, so I'm more used to Domestics smile.gif
Any help with this would be grateful
post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:13 PM
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the 3rd gen does NOT have a mass air flow meter, so don't worry about it.
post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:26 PM
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ok, good. anything special that we have to worry about going from the 5s-fe to the 3rd gen 3sgte motor?
post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:36 PM
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double post...

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post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:40 PM
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the swap should be the same thing as doing a 2nd gen 3sgte. The only difference i can think of, might be the wirring. But don't quote me on that .
post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:45 PM
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Wow yeah i didnt even realize he was talking 3rd gen.

Dropping it in will be easy but i'd grind downt he drivers side "mount" so it doesnt rub on the belt cover.

MR2 tranny as well.


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post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:55 PM
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lol yea about that im kinda new to this thats y i get help smile.gif
post Aug 31, 2004 - 9:55 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Aug 31, 2004 - 7:45 PM)
Wow yeah i didnt even realize he was talking 3rd gen.

Dropping it in will be easy but i'd grind downt he drivers side "mount" so it doesnt rub on the belt cover.

MR2 tranny as well.

That should be done with both the 2nd and 3rd gen motors.
post Aug 31, 2004 - 10:58 PM
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Thanks for all the tips everyone, its greatly appreaciated.
post Aug 31, 2004 - 11:32 PM
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post Sep 1, 2004 - 1:42 AM
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Every one that ive seen needed the mass air flow. My car is a 5sfe and I did the swap and needed the mass air flow.I used the one out of a mk3 supra.A mr2 will work as long as it is turbo charged!
post Sep 1, 2004 - 1:44 AM
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You will still need to keep your air temp sensor to!
post Sep 1, 2004 - 3:24 PM
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so it is soppossed to have a mass air flow sensor?
post Sep 1, 2004 - 6:19 PM
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3rd gen 3sgte's don't use a Mass Air FLow meter.


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This is a 3rd gen motor

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no Mass air flow meter to be found

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post Sep 2, 2004 - 1:20 AM
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The 3rdgen doesnt need one as long as you are using the 3rd gen ecu.I have a st165 and I had problems with the wiring on my car and couldnt figure out why things didnt match up.Then I called up toyota to find out the part # and were it came off of and it was a 3sgte from a 91 mr2. So because the mr2 has a mass air flow meter I had to get one!
post Sep 2, 2004 - 1:49 AM
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ok so the 3rd gen motor dose not need one and the 2nd gen motor dose need one but if i use the 3rd gen ecu with a 2nd gen motor its not needed correct? ok so whats this that i keep hearing about an igniter?
post Sep 2, 2004 - 1:54 AM
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QUOTE (goatrunner @ Sep 2, 2004 - 6:49 AM)
ok so the 3rd gen motor dose not need one and the 2nd gen motor dose need one but if i use the 3rd gen ecu with a 2nd gen motor its not needed correct? ok so whats this that i keep hearing about an igniter?

No... you'll need the engine harness from the 2nd gen then... cause the wires to the AFM and MAP are completely different. The ignitor is the coilpack that sends the spark to your distributor... and is unique to that engine...


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