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 Sep 5, 2004 - 3:26 PM
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could that guys avatar be any more big??
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Sep 5, 2004 - 3:34 PM
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please leave things like that to pm ive driven an alltrac and a neon srt and i think even the alltrac (st185) would take it. -------------------- i am awesome
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Sep 5, 2004 - 4:07 PM
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Ok then your saying the gt4 and a gsx are so different? They both have about the same HP are both AWD. I'm not saying that the srt4 is slow but most FWD are no match for an awd car with the same HP or close to the same in a quarter mile drag race. How much does the gt4 weigh? |
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Sep 5, 2004 - 4:34 PM
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gt4 weighs 1380kgs, with abs and electric pack more like 1400+ By the way in youre haste youve forgotten about GEAR RATIOS. -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Sep 5, 2004 - 4:41 PM
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gt4 weighs 1380kgs, with abs and electric pack more like 1400+ By the way in youre haste youve forgotten about GEAR RATIOS. The gt4 is geared for acceleration. As stock it does drag after 100mph. My friend has a wrx that is the same power as my gt4 but mine is over half a a second quicker to 60mph. not all awd are the same either. Have you seen the size of the rear torsen diff in the gt4? oh right no you havent because youve never seen one in real life. by your reckoning these cars must all have the smae acceleration characteristics GT4 Audi tt v6 Golf r32 wrx sti evo mitsubishi gto trust me a gt4 and an r32 golf accelerate in totally different ways -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
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Sep 5, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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Ain't nothin' like seein' a 1.6 60' on one of those. That's the most amazing thing I've ever seen.. -Brian |
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Sep 5, 2004 - 11:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ok so your saying that a gt4 weighs in at alittle over 3000lbs. And a GSX that weighs in at 3681 lbs beats that Neon STR4 easily, the gt4 will almost lose to an srt4 when it is almost 600lbs lighter, and has more HP than a GSX which only has 210 hp?
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Sep 5, 2004 - 11:37 PM
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No...the SRT4 will not win. I took my WRX when it was stock to race my friend's SRT4. The SRT4 I think is actually rated 230HP and 250ft/lb of torque and my Rex is 227HP and 217 ft/lb of torque. I raced him driving it twice and beat him by a car length each time. I then raced his car but against one of my friend's who is a very talented driver and he said he gave it all he had and I still won by half a carlength if not a little bit more.
The wheel spin on the SRT4 isnt the general issue...it's the wheel hop. The motor mounts are wretched and is normally one of the first things to be upgraded by the SRT4 owners that know what they're doing. My Rex beat that car and is rated at less HP and torque than the ST205. I say ST205. EDIT Good point on the gear ratios as well. The ST205 is geared for accelleration...but remember so is the SRT4. Remember it's claim to fame "The only car under $20,000 that can get to 60 mph in under 6 seconds." That's why it has so much torque. So in this particular instance, I think they are both geared relatively more toward accelleration so the comparison of gear ratios matters a bit less. EDIT2 Here's the link on the Car and Driver website that shows the upgrades the the 04 model year. http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?se...article_id=7871 This post has been edited by snadman: Sep 5, 2004 - 11:45 PM -------------------- 95 Toyota Celica GT
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Sep 5, 2004 - 11:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What year was the srt4? The 2k3 is 215hp and the 2k4 is 230 hp.
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Sep 6, 2004 - 12:26 AM
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but how could the neon win when its broken on the side of the road?
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Sep 6, 2004 - 2:02 AM
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lalalalalalalalala depends on driver lalalalalalalalalalalala
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Sep 6, 2004 - 11:56 AM
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and both those are underrated. the 215hp srt4 puts 230hp at the wheels -------------------- 1994 Celica GT4 WRC Edition
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Sep 8, 2004 - 6:57 AM
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The GT4 is not really made for quarter mile speed racing but for rallying. I believe we should discuss the same issue regarding a Swap Celi instead.
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Sep 8, 2004 - 3:13 PM
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I know this is a Celica website, but there is no way that an ST185 would take an SRT4 stock for stock. I know a person who ran the following time just 2 weekends ago in a bone stock SRT4 (less than 1000 miles on the odometer). 13.936 @ 100.15mph 2.177 60' Honestly, I don't know if an ST205 can beat an SRT4 in a 1/4 mile drag race either. It'd be close any way you look at it, and it would most definately come down to the driver. I can tell you that last year I beat an SRT4 in my 1994 Eclipse GSX (MBC set to 14psi, and a K&N) at the track, but against the one that I listed above, I would've lost by .07 of a second. This post has been edited by phaqgm: Sep 8, 2004 - 3:13 PM |
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Sep 26, 2004 - 4:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '04 From Wimborne Dorset England Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I would say it would be down to the driver between the two. Still the figures show the neon does 60 in 5.6 and a st205 is 6.1s
Ive got an ST205, and its weakness at launches is the standard clutch. You get a decent clutch in there and it will do it a lot quicker. Too many revs will just cook the clutch, then it will be slipping in 2nd, you'll have a job to spin the wheels, its running a LSD as standard on the rear. Another point, the boost is limited in 1st and 2nd, remove that aswell, and its getting faster!! FWD draging?? vs 4wd? no contest |
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