Celica STX, Different performance wise? Options

[Justin]

I have a friend who was just givin an stx coupe. He says that it does come with a different stroke and cams. I didn't belive him, so , he took me for a ride. He only has an intake and that thing pulls way harder than my st. For even more testing, I raced him. To my surprise he won by a 3/4 to 1 carlength. I have full exhaust with no cat and a resonator. He also said it has different gearing, but I did'nt pay attention to where he shifted in my ride along. He also said it comes with stiffer suspension and that it came from the factory with an unclearcoated front bumper. Also his is like 190 something of like 250. So, uh, I'm really confused.

[Ale_lock]

STX & GTX

Not sure if there's anything more to it then what is explained on that site.

[Kwanza26]

They're the same... STX is just a dealer packaged car... but engine-wise... same as the regular ST...

[Digndoug]

your friends is full of sheat.. its just a dealer option of some sort.. theres no dif between engines or trannys or gears.. tell him hes a dumbass

[Justin]

problem with that site is, is that his car is a 95'

[Justin]

I almost forgot, his timing is advanced. I don't know by how much, but it still should have been a closer race. We both started from a roll in 2nd at the same speed at the same time and he pulled almost a car. Well, maybe my timing is really crappy. I advanced mine today. I'm not sure by how much though because I did it blind with no timing light and just made sure it did't knock. btw my distributer is turned as far advanced as possible yet the idle is only a little worse.

This post has been edited by Justin: Aug 23, 2004 - 12:52 AM

[Kwanza26]

[Kwanza26]

[Justin]

[jmoneydtb]

hey justin its james, "the supra mechanic" just bring your celica over to bills...we have a timing light and any other tool you might need to do some more work on your celica.

no offense to anyone, but the st and stx cannot be the exact same because when is the last time you saw a stock st pull on a light moded mustang gt?...i saw the stx do so right in front of me this weekend...and all we put on the stx is intake and advanced timing...

"quote from kwanza26" If it makes you feel any better... my ST, as it is currently (detuned... going back to stock)... I'll almost gurantee you I'll put at least a car on your friend...

i seriously doubt that from watching this stx perform this weekend...unless youve got i-h-e, ignition and cams...and you say your going back to stock so...you apparently dont have these things at least anymore...

and if any one wants to talk about how a 3s-gte motor is better than a 2jz in a supra...yousa damn fool...you show me a 1450whp 3s-gte and then ill believe that its a better motor then...the reason they swap a 3s-gte into supras for racing is because in jgtc the make a good amount of power and are a great motor, but they are good few hundred pounds lighter than a 2jz...thats why they swap...also $15g in a mkiv supra will get you into low 10's as long as you know what you are doing. the supra that i have helped build up ran a 12.0 quarter w/ only $4500 invested in the motor on stock turbos, ic, fuel sys, suspension and walmart tires! should be running low to mid 11's on low boost now.

now im not trying to start **** and im sorry if it sounds that way...i just know what ive seen and im just trying to explain the evidence.

This post has been edited by jmoneydtb: Aug 23, 2004 - 1:35 PM

[Coomer]

Trust us...we live Celicas day in and day out...The Celica STX has the exact same engine as the Celica ST. Maybe the ST you're comparing the STX to isn't running optimally...the same thing could be true with the Mustang that the Celica STX pulled on. But I know for sure that the Celica STX has the same 7A-FE engine as the Celica ST.

And where did the 3S-GTE vs. 2JZ-GTE argument come from? Lets keep this thread on topic.

[jmoneydtb]

sorry about the rant on the motors, i just saw someone saying that the 3s-gte can make more power than a 2jz. i live supras day in and day out...so i know for a fact thats not true.

but i just dont think i can be convinced otherwise of the st and stx being the same because of how that car performs infront of my own eyes. the information about the differnce in motors comes from the stx owner who drove it every day for 2 years before coming to own it. it pulled on mustang gt's then and it still does now. this person has also owned a 6th gen gt-4 for 4 years so he is a celica enthusiast as well and has done a lot of research on his celicas.

please dont get me wrong, im not trying to down celicas in anyway.i know they are great cars.

This post has been edited by jmoneydtb: Aug 23, 2004 - 1:47 PM

[Coomer]

[jmoneydtb]

same guy that owns this apparently unusually fast stx, his name is tony, and his brother bill, my best friend is the owner of the supra ive mentioned...and i am looking at a mr2 turbo right now, but if it falls through i wouldnt mind having a 6th gen celica...then we could have our race team made up mainly of toyotas...i want justin to join up with our team as well...

only trouble with tony coming on here is that he doesnt have a computer...

[Coomer]

[blksp63supra]

well I am bill, the guy with the supra mentioned above, also the mechanic of all the cars that jmoneydtb mentioned and not to start anything but the stx pulled a full car on the mustang with no problem I was right there with them and there was absolutley nothing wrong with the mustang gt and all my brothers car has is an intake, but the mustang sounded fine just to let you guys know.

[Coomer]

It's a V8 Mustang, right? If so, it may have sounded fine, but it either had some serious problems or a really bad driver to get beat by a stock Celica ST.

[blksp63supra]

it was a v8 mustang and the guy drove it fine didn't miss a gear or anything. and the car was running perfectly trust me

[dstrbcelica]

tell this guy who has the stx to race the mustang again and when and if it happens, get it on video and post it. until then, i call b.s.

-dstrb

[macavely]

we should get one of those guys that have an stx.. i remeber when i fist joined up here i emailed one of the about one of the mods he had on his car.. we should contact that guy and ask him.. or get intoch with someone the works at toyota