 PICS of the 3SGTE Swap!, here they are... |
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 Sep 21, 2004 - 11:42 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I bought the MR2T clip from Ricky's Auto in Miami. My experience was OK.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 22, 2004 - 10:46 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Austin Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dyno??
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Sep 22, 2004 - 11:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No dyno. No reason to. Once the boost is turned up to 14, I will be running about 220 or 230 whp. If I get a new turbo or EMS someday, I may get it dynoed in conjunction with tuning.
This post has been edited by jgreening: Sep 22, 2004 - 11:27 AM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 22, 2004 - 9:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
pics posted
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 22, 2004 - 9:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '04 From charlotte N.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
wow JAMASCO did a awesome job. your car is amazing.
just curious how much did they charge for the swap including everything you ahd done? This post has been edited by recneps: Sep 22, 2004 - 9:33 PM -------------------- Former: 96 GT 5 speed (i/p/e) Fate- rear ended by mack truck
00 GTS 6 speed (i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/) 193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted) Fate- side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph. Next: maybe an elise |
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Sep 22, 2004 - 9:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Labor was about 2K. The wiring alone was $625. I have over 5k in parts and miscellaneous expenses.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 22, 2004 - 10:45 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
man, i really need to get my pipes weled.
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Sep 22, 2004 - 10:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 27, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
was the wiring ($625) part of the $2000 in labor?
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Sep 22, 2004 - 11:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm gonna be the first to call bs on this whole thing. the pictures say 1961.05.06 and it is CLEARLY not May 6th 1961
 j/k. nice pictures man. I'm deathly jealous |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 8:18 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes.
It is BS that I have figured out how to operate my new digital camera properly...laughs. This post has been edited by jgreening: Sep 23, 2004 - 8:19 AM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 2, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
MORE BRIGHTER PICS !!!!
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Sep 23, 2004 - 11:50 AM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
looks GREAT man...real nice job on the IC piping, looks real clean!...mmmm BOOOOST
-------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Sep 23, 2004 - 9:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
w00t go jgreening. Kudos on the swap and have some serious fun with it!
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Sep 23, 2004 - 9:41 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
without a turbo upgrade or a few other supporting mods, id say about 205-215 is more reasonable. with the MR2 transmission, you are looking at about a 10-20% drivetrain loss depending upon condition. bone stock MR2s dyno out at 182 or less at the wheels. rule of thumb for boost increases is approximatly 10WHP for every added PSI as long as it is within the turbos optimum range. +2 PSI will yield approximatly 20 WHP... 180+20+maybe 10 for the intake/exhaust combo = ~210. to gain more HP by opening up the air flow restrictions, you are missing the 2 biggest ones, primary cat (which a downpipe will replace) and the AFM sensor. those two things will yield you a bigger gain. --------------------  Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:01 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From IL Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
that's awesome that we have a 3SGTE guy in IL now.
 The car is sweetness!! Congrats on the swap
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Tim, you know alot more about these cars than I do. That said, I got my information from the MR Controls power primer. According to that primer, the stock USDM 3sgte at 15psi with no other mods gives 200rwhp. Since I indicated that I was only planning to raise mine to 14psi, subtract 10whp to 190. The primer also indicates that you get 2-3 whp from an aftermarket intake and 10 whp from a 2.5" mandrel bent exhaust. This would have me up to at least 202. Keep in mind that JDM ECU is 21 hp higher than the USDM. Taking out the 10-20% loss through the drive train would have me in the 219-221 whp range. Thats with a 2psi cushion for safety because with an aftermarket intercooler, you get up to 16psi safely but according to the primer that adds only another 5whp. So, about 220 whp with room to go up to 235whp safely. I know this isn't exactly scientific but I wasn't trying to inflate the numbers either.
Here is the link: 3sgte Power Primer I am curious if you still disagree. - Jay. This post has been edited by jgreening: Sep 23, 2004 - 10:06 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i was unaware of the JDM ECU. it makes sense now
 and i love that power primer, very good start for basic 3sgte modifications. i was planning on getting their hydra-nemisis system later on and convert to MAP sensored instead of AFM, but i guess that all goes to the way-side now 
-------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
and FYI i was also getting my crude ballpark figures from previous testing done on mr2s, as well as the mrcontrols power primer
-------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I wasn't critisizing....real world experience is to be valued over mere reading....
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 23, 2004 - 10:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i didnt take your comment as criticism, FYI was merely an afterthought kind of like a friendly PS, sorry if it was taken otherwise.
-------------------- Believer, you'll leave her, in leaving them all No but I don't buy it Like anything you do, as anyone you are Cause I'm... Ten Speed, of God's Blood & Burial |
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