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 Sep 21, 2004 - 4:28 PM
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what if you took the late model 3S-GE top end (with VVT-i) and put in on the 3S-GTE?
would you have toyota reliability on a turbo motor with VVT-i? or am i just an idiot and there is an obvious reason it won't work. -------------------- my signature is the coolest.
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Sep 21, 2004 - 4:34 PM
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possible but not worth it. variable cam timing isn't beneficial for boosted vehicles.
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Sep 21, 2004 - 4:50 PM
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There is no way to work.....
 What a wild block have to do with the low compression block of the 3SGTE???...I think its nice move if you take the block from a 3SGE(VVTI) and put it on a 3SGE non-VVTI block... you could have better results......If you want to extend the duration with wilder camshaft profile HKS and JUN has very nice camshaft kits for 3S block and trust me...its cheaper.
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Sep 21, 2004 - 8:54 PM
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or you could buy a 10$ boost controller off ebay and get 10x the gain VVT-i would give u, in just a baisc 3sgte.
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Sep 21, 2004 - 8:55 PM
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VVTi is like computer controlled cam gear...
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Sep 21, 2004 - 10:33 PM
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But i thought the Supra has a VVT-i? Or is it the VVTL-i?
Edit: what's the difference? This post has been edited by Shigexile: Sep 21, 2004 - 10:45 PM -------------------- PROJECT 6TH GEN
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Sep 22, 2004 - 1:35 AM
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Later models of the 2JZ did have VVTi. I don't think it ever made it to the USDM supras... but I dunno. If it did, it was in the late model 97+... As for VVTi and VVTLi... it can be as much as 40 hp difference (1zzfe vs. 2zzge). VVTL-i works similar to VTEC and provides variable cam lift and timing... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Sep 22, 2004 - 9:49 AM
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my sis 95 supra has vvti
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Sep 22, 2004 - 11:03 AM
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PFi, HHH, RT1, fib fib... hahah us non-3sgte are like huh??
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Sep 22, 2004 - 5:31 PM
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If you check out any race vehicle from honda or toyota, you'll see that neither of them have vtec or VVTi. Regardless of turbo or NA. More aggressive cams don't have variable valve timing. Turbo charging a car with vtec or VVTi, won't reach full potential because the cams have too much overlap.
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Sep 22, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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VTEC and VVTL-i are not designed for race. They are designed to make "STREETABLE" horsepower. Of course, it would only make sense that their non-street race engines don't need to be cluttered with VTEC or VVTL-i. Agressive cam profiles can make a lot of power with good tuning on a Turbo car. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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