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post Aug 21, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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i bought the rear gr-2 struts and am looking for the front. i was wondering how difficult it was to interchange the stock strut with the kyb gr-2 cartridge. or, where could i find some koni front struts. thanks
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post Aug 21, 2004 - 1:09 PM
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the hardst part is removing the nut that hold the insert in the strut housing... the KYB the Koni and the OEM toyota insert all fit fine with no problem... i'll post a pic of how the fit later tonight..


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post Aug 21, 2004 - 1:10 PM
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oh yea you can get both the KYB and the Koni from TireRack.com.. they have the best prices i have seen ..


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post Aug 24, 2004 - 8:14 AM
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its not hard at all. i think it only took me 10 mins to change them once i had them off the car. you just unscrew a nut, then the old insert comes out and you put the new one in and tighten the nut.
post Aug 24, 2004 - 1:30 PM
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Basically to ellaborate on what the others said...

1. take out the old strut and the spring (under compression)
2. place strut in a vice clamp and secure (to get the nut off)
EDIT 2: Also...tilt the top of the strut up a little, otherwise it might get messy ... a 30/45 degree angle is fine
3. use an adjustable wrench and break the nut lose
4. let the yucky stuff spill out somewhere
5. install your new strut, and use the new nut that came with it
6. go drink something
post Aug 24, 2004 - 2:50 PM
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here are some pics.. oncer you take the sturt off and remover the spring, undo this nut
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oncer you have it off
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pull out the old insert and replace it with the new one.. and if you have the original ones still in what out for the oil..
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post Aug 25, 2004 - 4:45 PM
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Mac, did you replace front also if yes did you have to cut it or was it direct replacement
post Aug 25, 2004 - 5:14 PM
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QUOTE (TTE @ Aug 25, 2004 - 4:45 PM)
Mac, did you replace front also if yes did you have to cut it or was it direct replacement

na i haven't installed the struts in yet.. but know you don't have to cut them... the bolt might be on tight but with the right tools it's esay to get off no need to cut..


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post Aug 26, 2004 - 9:26 AM
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1. take out the old strut and the spring (under compression)

what do u mean when u said under compression? thinking about changing struts too
post Aug 26, 2004 - 11:21 AM
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Means if u arent careful it'll shoot out and kill innocent kittens.


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post Aug 26, 2004 - 11:33 AM
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QUOTE
Means if u arent careful it'll shoot out and kill innocent kittens

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
yup,... EXACTLY what he said! wink.gif


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post Aug 26, 2004 - 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Aug 26, 2004 - 11:33 AM)
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Means if u arent careful it'll shoot out and kill innocent kittens

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
yup,... EXACTLY what he said! wink.gif

yep, the springs in front are under compression. Meaning, if you loosen the top nut (look below) it'll shoot off with the spring, break your arm, and kill many kittens. Bad in all situations. Unless its evil kittens. Then do it. But watch out for your arm. Wait, i'm rambling.


Top Nut - If you pop your hood you'll see 3 nuts on each strut tower. In the middle of those nuts, you'll see a BIGGER nut not attached to the body. Thats the top nut.

To remove strut assembly - Of course, take off your wheel. Take off those 3 nuts in the engine bay, the strut will drop about 2-3" in the well. Dont worry. Take off the 2 large bolts on the control arm. They are sideways, cant miss em. Behind the strut, take off the brake line bolt. This doesn't do anything except keep the brake line from messing around. Lay those aside, give her a tug and yank out the assembly. Place in a spring compression, tighten. Take off the top bolt. The strut will fall to the ground. hehe, got you. Take the strut, remove the nut around the base, and take out the insert (or original with lots of oil mind you wink.gif ) and replace with new insert and new base nut. Go back to your spring compressor and place the strut assembly back in and retighten the top nut (unless your planning on changing springs too - then just replace the spring). Once tight, replace assembly back into the car in reverse order. Enjoy.
post Aug 26, 2004 - 1:42 PM
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do i need a torque wrench for any of this?
post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:11 PM
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You most certainly do. Preferably one that goes up to 150 lb-ft. Check out my site (linked below), it has some info on the procedure.
I also recommend a pipe wrench for the strut inserts. For me a vice didn't do the trick.

Other things... you may want a file and some paint to kill any rust you run across. High temp bearing grease is a must. Strut boots may be necessary if yours are in bad shape.

Be prepared for needing to order a part if you discover something broken.

edit: If you don't have the torques, I recommend getting a Chilton's. Well worth the money. If not, pm me and I'll send 'em to you.

This post has been edited by mr_dude: Aug 26, 2004 - 2:12 PM


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post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:35 PM
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QUOTE (mr_dude @ Aug 26, 2004 - 2:11 PM)
You most certainly do. Preferably one that goes up to 150 lb-ft. Check out my site (linked below), it has some info on the procedure.
I also recommend a pipe wrench for the strut inserts. For me a vice didn't do the trick.

Other things... you may want a file and some paint to kill any rust you run across. High temp bearing grease is a must. Strut boots may be necessary if yours are in bad shape.

Be prepared for needing to order a part if you discover something broken.

edit: If you don't have the torques, I recommend getting a Chilton's. Well worth the money. If not, pm me and I'll send 'em to you.

nice write up dude
post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:40 PM
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i didnt know a torque wrench was that important just thought as long as i bolt that **** back up it be ok
post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:45 PM
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Most of the time that will work.
Some of the time that will break things. Not all nuts can take the beating you give biggrin.gif
Some of the time you're under torque even though you're pushing as hard as you can. The rear suspension knuckle for example. That can cause things to fall apart down the road when you've forgotten about it.

Borrow a torque wrench. Or buy one, they're neat.

edit: thanks turbo!

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post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:50 PM
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Im thinking about borrowing torque wrench. Im thinking of changing my bros rear struts and need to buy tools any suggestions besides torque wrench. Like a 120 or 150 pc craftsman tool set. thanks
post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:55 PM
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Impact wrenches are the greatest things on earth. Way better than candy corn.


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post Aug 26, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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QUOTE (mr_dude @ Aug 26, 2004 - 7:55 PM)
(Impact wrenches) are the greatest things on earth. Way better than candy corn.

whats that sorry for being stupid

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