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> i have an auto and i have questions, yea i need help
post Oct 6, 2004 - 6:48 PM
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Umm, game, set, match.

yea, you don't need the supercharger and G head. The 7a head is actually all you would need if you aren't going to run Mass boost levels. Plus, the turbo size for a 7a (T-3ish) gives you plenty of boost at low RPM. Trust me, with the turbo you will spin your tires till you want to stop. there is no reason to SC it. that's just going to cause LOADS of stress on your system.

Just turbo. if you want hella power, 500 will install NICE Arias pistons. With That set up you could boost 12-14 psi no problem as long as the tuning was right.

So, we could both have ten grand: you could go 7agtze and I coud go 7afte built to hell and I (with my 12+ psi) would destroy you on a road course and annialate you on the 4th. Facts are facts. they might not seem near as exotic, but hey, if it's your thing, go for it. But if it's about power, build the 7afe and Tcharge it

Here you have to ask yourself. Do I want a 200whp 7a running 14's or a 3rd gen 3sgte built with 300+hp running 13's?

you decide.

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post Oct 6, 2004 - 9:33 PM
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how about with all that damn money instead of destroying a 7a just drop a 3s in and be happy.


why does everyone have to make things so damn difficult, this thread is a joke.


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post Oct 6, 2004 - 9:51 PM
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first of all the 7afe is still a fe head. the ge is a true twin design. so no you wouldnt smoke me cause once you reach full boost your head will crack and so wil your intake manifold. and i dont need a s/c your right but it would be cool. anyway when i started this thread i wasnt looking to compete or show off i just wanted know if it was posible. oh and one more thing there no 7afe internals that will achive 12 psi for daily use. sorry yoru gonna ahve to go ge. thanks guys wish me luck.
post Oct 6, 2004 - 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Oct 7, 2004 - 2:51 AM)
first of all the 7afe is still a fe head. the ge is a true twin design. so no you wouldnt smoke me cause once you reach full boost your head will crack and so wil your intake manifold. and i dont need a s/c your right but it would be cool. anyway when i started this thread i wasnt looking to compete or show off i just wanted know if it was posible. oh and one more thing there no 7afe internals that will achive 12 psi for daily use. sorry yoru gonna ahve to go ge. thanks guys wish me luck.

You know, you shouldn't talk the talk unless you can walk the walk. Opening your mouth only proves you know less and less...

Do you even know what's involved in a head swap? These debates are just getting silly.


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post Oct 6, 2004 - 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Oct 6, 2004 - 7:51 PM)
first of all the 7afe is still a fe head. the ge is a true twin design. so no you wouldnt smoke me cause once you reach full boost your head will crack and so wil your intake manifold. and i dont need a s/c your right but it would be cool. anyway when i started this thread i wasnt looking to compete or show off i just wanted know if it was posible. oh and one more thing there no 7afe internals that will achive 12 psi for daily use. sorry yoru gonna ahve to go ge. thanks guys wish me luck.

Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to be adversarial, I am just stating facts. Custom rods and custom pistons will run about $500 eachish depending on where you get them. they will Easily take 12psi if they get proper fuel mixture. The crank can be shot peened or cryo treated, and then it will Easily handle 12 psi. HKS piston rings... performance bearings...(don't remember where to find them off hand, but they are out there. HKS or Blitz head gasket... that, in conjunction with the Iron block 7a and that is a Solid 7a short block. The head is simply a grand or so machine work and you have easy 12+psi. when you pop the hood it won't be as pretty as a 7age, but hey, it's fast as whoa
post Oct 6, 2004 - 10:04 PM
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ehh im done. im just gonna rig a mr2 tranny and turn it into a rear wheel drive... late. and yes i do know whats involved with a head swap. ive been reading and searching for 1 yr now. i know you own every toyota kwanza. but just because i dont go in depth with my posts. doesnt mean i dont know what im talking about.

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post Oct 6, 2004 - 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Oct 7, 2004 - 3:04 AM)
ehh im done. im just gonna rig a mr2 tranny and turn it into a rear wheel drive... late. and yes i do know whats involved with a head swap. ive been reading and searching for 1 yr now. i know you own every toyota kwanza. but just because i dont go in depth with my posts. doesnt mean i dont know what im talking about.

PROOF that you know NOTHING. MR2 tranny and go RWD... LOL... the MR2 uses a FWD tranny... rolleyes.gif

Honestly now... I try to be nice and stuff... but I'm just not as nice as some of the other guys when people start talking trash.

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post Oct 7, 2004 - 2:03 AM
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hmm lets read again, shall we??? im getting a mr2 tranny.......and turn it into a rear wheel drive....... turn meaning change. and your never nice. even if someone asks a simple question..your an ass.

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He's direct. Thats what alot of people around here need. There are many dreamers around here [rollseyes/] and he does what it takes to keep people from killing themselves. Everyone that has posted in this thread so far has tried to re-direct you cause you seem to want it all..... Bad ass auto, Twin charge, rear wheel drive........Decide damnit.


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post Oct 7, 2004 - 9:39 AM
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easy gang. lets not bash like celica.net.

if you want to go RWD, it would probably be easier to start with a JDM 3sgte altezza tranny (RWD tranny) then trying to have everything custom built. And also, here is hoping you have a hatch back!
post Oct 7, 2004 - 9:46 AM
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ok IMPO with the 7afe engine one path you can go rebuild the 7afe internals coated etc put a T-3 or t3-t4 with all the little goodies bigger injector, fuel computer ,fuel rail, FPR, pump ,etc. Then head work p&p grind the shafts,etc.
then you should have 250whp at 12-14 psi daily driver/weekend drag car or what ever running. i think anything over 250-300 is a waste on a FF car.One last thing all this will not be cheap and dont get that cheap stuff get the good products the first time. rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif ok i'm done


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post Oct 7, 2004 - 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (nik @ Oct 7, 2004 - 7:46 AM)
ok IMPO with the 7afe engine one path you can go rebuild the 7afe internals coated etc put a T-3 or t3-t4 with all the little goodies bigger injector, fuel computer ,fuel rail, FPR, pump ,etc. Then head work p&p grind the shafts,etc.
then you should have 250whp at 12-14 psi daily driver/weekend drag car or what ever running. i think anything over 250-300 is a waste on a FF car.One last thing all this will not be cheap and dont get that cheap stuff get the good products the first time. rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif ok i'm done

and keep in mind this could probably be done with about 5k instead of ten.
post Oct 7, 2004 - 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (shadycrew31 @ Oct 7, 2004 - 2:03 AM)
hmm lets read again, shall we??? im getting a mr2 tranny.......and turn it into a rear wheel drive....... turn meaning change. and your never nice. even if someone asks a simple question..your an ass.

the MR2 tranny doesnt work with a driveshaft, the E-153 mounts transversely, parallel to a transverse motor so the drive axles are right below the engine. reguardless the E-153 wont bolt to a 7A motor without some very expensive machining of adaptor plates.

the altezza never had a 3sgte in it, i believe it was only a 3sge or a 3sfe for the base model, then they used the 2jz for their higher end. and no, 10k is much more realistic than 5k. unless you do all the work yourself.



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post Oct 7, 2004 - 11:32 AM
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Why not stay FWD and be the first to use a LSD? Its still something never before done.


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post Oct 7, 2004 - 4:49 PM
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thanks boosted. i had read somewhere that you could do that, oh well. and i will be doing all the work myself, i trust no one under my hood. and at this point my baby is goin rwd. its just goin to happen i dont care how but it is. and it would be a total of 7,600 that i could save. so once again im going to have a lot of work cut out. but it will be well worth it in the end.
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you trust nobody but yet you dont know anything about your car??

i belive its time for you too rethink your dreams little one.

and if you still think you can go RWD then you might as well buy a rear clip from a GT4 because thats about the only way its gonna happen.

and dont plan on driving your car withiin the next year either.


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post Oct 7, 2004 - 6:29 PM
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well that was the idea but it wont take a year to do it. but im done with discussing these topics. i will post next year when i have a rwd 7agte untile then goodbye.
post Oct 7, 2004 - 10:13 PM
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if you are going to use the 7a then you could re-build a AE86 tranny and use it. From there the rest is basically knowing what goes where. if you are expecting 200+hp though, you had better have some hella strong welds.
post Oct 8, 2004 - 1:08 AM
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I believe the W series trannies bolt up to the S series motors. W series trannies can be found on old-school RWD Celicas, Supras, and Trucks.

Now I'll ask... do you know what's involved in doing a rear wheel drive swap? I could just explain in detail.... but I've already done that before...

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post Oct 8, 2004 - 4:28 AM
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yea me and some 5th gens are all doing rwd drive swaps. its gonna be a pain.. but i mean how many rwd 6th gens have you seen. so yea its gonan be long and boring. but at least its worth it in the end.

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