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> jdm SIDEMIRROR wiring INFO, attention NEVERSTOP, CTCAT2049
post Nov 3, 2004 - 7:54 PM
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that is my JDM control unit. I have all the JDM peices, including the relay... and i'm still stuck.

-Ti


well since you have EVERYTHING you should be the one to figure this out for us wink.gif

LOL there should only be like 3 or 4 wires you will have to hook up


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damn I thought you guys would make it easy for me. Has Anyone tried hooking the mirrors up to a battery and figuring out the functions of each wire ? still havent received mine yet. Wish I could shed some light.


yea tried that and got every function to work but not at the same time or nething like that... its suck a bish to figure this out frown.gif


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post Nov 3, 2004 - 10:47 PM
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if he has everything shouldn't it be a straight wire up?

control switch to relay box

relay box to mirror?


oh and so we clarafi things......control switch is the one were you push the buttons

relay is the stupid black box that TI has

and the mirrors are the things on the outside of your car
post Nov 3, 2004 - 11:06 PM
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The mirrors are on the outside ? opps frown.gif I screwed up.

NEVER, you might want to try using a relay or 2. Have you wired relays before ? If you need to reverse a polarity use these diagrams here (relay diagrams)

also, you said you can make the mirrors move (fold) with a battery hardwired right ? What wires and what polarity ?



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post Nov 3, 2004 - 11:15 PM
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the two wires on the out side of either side (2 farthest left or right wires) polarity doesn't matter one way will move out and one way moves in
post Nov 3, 2004 - 11:20 PM
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yea I just used a little 9vlt battery

think some of my prob is I had 3 shorts in my circut board.. I did one of em but never noticed the other 2 cuz they where hidden under some whitish goey ****.

I soddered in some copperwire to fix everything and hotglued overem so hopefully that helps.

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if he has everything shouldn't it be a straight wire up?

control switch to relay box

relay box to mirror?


not quite but almost.. he will still have to splice into the USDM harness to make it all work but that should only be power and ground/chassis


***BTW THERE IS A RELAY BOX ON EBAY - DON'T BID ON IT ITS MINE!!!!!!!***

its just for toyota.. the guy didnt know what vehicle it was for but still its mine biggrin.gif


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post Nov 3, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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NEVER, you might want to try using a relay or 2. Have you wired relays before ? If you need to reverse a polarity use these diagrams here (relay diagrams)


that link might of well just said,"AHTEJAHTAWJTKJAKTHJAHTJA THAJHTKA A HATJHE ATHATHKAKJKDCNEKC NIOMEAO;NGAN AJKLSDJFLJLA" cus thats about as much since as it made to me wink.gif


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post Nov 3, 2004 - 11:46 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that wink.gif anyway, my guess with this whole mess is - the control unit (JDM switch that goes in the door) probaly gets wired in with the up righ left down similar to US/UK/JDM (whatever the wire colors are, they are all there and will work). The wires that are for the folding go to a relay (or 2) and then to BOTH of the mirror motors (safer that way). The UK write up just bypasses the relay(s) and goes strait to each mirror motors individually (not as safe).

I will have my mirrors and switch in 6 days and on Wednesday I will be installing them. I will probaly get buy two $3 relays from radioshack to replace the toyota one because that is all it is.

NEVER, learn about relays !!!!!!!!!!! you are buying one. You are going to need to know how to install it properly.

I wish you guys lived close to me, I would be able to get these done.


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post Nov 4, 2004 - 12:30 AM
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Batman, you wire the harnesses and they will come.

Get it working and name your price.


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post Nov 4, 2004 - 8:50 AM
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Hey guys, the panic's over, the doctor has arrived wink.gif

My name's Graham, I'm from merry olde England, I've got a '98 Celica GT, and I've fitted JDM electric folding mirrors and made them work biggrin.gif


So any questions you've got, ask away.

Firstly, any of you that have got a control relay, throw it away. You don't need it!

Next, for anyone who hasn't already got it, here's the circuit diagram for the existing mirrors on the USDM cars http://www.yellowsun.plus.com/how2/photos/cirdiag2.gif


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post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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That's what I'm talking about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:42 AM
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How the JDM mirrors work.

There are just 2 wires for the retractor motor, blue and green. If you apply power to one wire and ground the other, the motor runs one way. If you reverse the polarity it runs the other way. The motor has internal limit switches to switch it off when it reaches the end of it's travel, so the power can be left on all the time.


The connections on the JDM control.
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1 - retractor motor
2 - retractor motor
3 - spare
4 - left vertical adjuster
5 - chassis
6 - power +12v
7 - right horizontal adjuster
8 - right vertical adjuster
9 - common feed to adjusters
10 - left horizontal adjuster



As for relays, I take your point about using them to save the switch, but in this case the motor current is tiny and I wouldn't have thought it necessary.


The corresponding USDM loom colors

1 - retractor motor
2 - retractor motor
3 - spare
4 - left vertical adjuster - BR/Y
5 - chassis - W/BK
6 - power +12v - GY
7 - right horizontal adjuster - LG
8 - right vertical adjuster - LG/BK
9 - common feed to adjusters - LG/R
10 - left horizontal adjuster - BR/W

GY = Grey
W = White
BK = Black
BL = Blue
BR = Brown
R = Red
Y = Yellow
GR = Green
LG = Light Green

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post Nov 4, 2004 - 2:05 PM
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thanks SilverGt, i'm the one who emailed you

Are you sure that is the controls for ALL JDM control units?

I only ask because I board looks different

-Ti

post Nov 4, 2004 - 2:09 PM
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And one more.... yeah

Now assuming the break down you gave us above is correct for all models, how do we go about working with it. Does the stock USDM harness plug right in and all we have to do is splice in the two extra wires for retract and expand? Thanks

-Ti
post Nov 4, 2004 - 3:04 PM
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QUOTE (turboinduction @ Nov 4, 2004 - 7:05 PM)
Are you sure that is the controls for ALL JDM control units?

I only ask because I board looks different

-Ti

I've got no idea. The truth is I've only seen the one I've got, and I never got to see the car it came from.
post Nov 4, 2004 - 3:11 PM
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QUOTE (turboinduction @ Nov 4, 2004 - 7:09 PM)
And one more.... yeah

Now assuming the break down you gave us above is correct for all models, how do we go about working with it.  Does the stock USDM harness plug right in and all we have to do is splice in the two extra wires for retract and expand?  Thanks

-Ti

The JDM plugs and sockets are different to the ones in my car, so no, it didn't just plug in. You could cut the plugs off and just join up the new wires, but I choose to splice in behind the plugs so that all the original stuff is still there.

But in essence, all you have to do is connect up the existing wiring to the new control as the old one was, and add the 2 wires for the retractors.
post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:09 PM
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Sweet, I recieved my mirrors today. SilverGT thanks for the great info ! Could you take pictures of your wires and how they are spliced.

also, how did you run the retract wires up to the mirror ?

Thanks,
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post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:20 PM
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yea your pins are different then mine for the control...


i have 3 on top and 5 on bottom
1 in the top left two on the top right
and five straight across the bottom
post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:21 PM
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oh and i don't understand a single thing on that last think posted
post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:35 PM
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I've got a pink wire - anyone know what that does. Its part of the cut off harness thats in my JDM control unit......

-Ti
post Nov 4, 2004 - 10:42 PM
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this is how my wires are
3 top pins
top left pin : brown wire w/ silver spots
top middle pin but on the right side: blue wire w/ red stripe
top Right pin: gray wire w/silver spots
bottom pins from left to right:
pink w/black strip
pink w/white strip
puke green w/black strip
puke green w/red strip
red w/ silver spots

edit= all wires have silver spots lol

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