 jdm SIDEMIRROR wiring INFO, attention NEVERSTOP, CTCAT2049 |
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 Nov 4, 2004 - 10:47 PM
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wow thats completely different |
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Nov 4, 2004 - 10:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Oh yea!
BE JEALOUS!!! got all functions to work.. and I ended up not even using the control box.. will post more later as to how.. just dont have time at the moment --------------------  99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Nov 4, 2004 - 10:57 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 13, '03 From California Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
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Nov 4, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
 okay heres the quick version of how I did it.. will make a scematic of later on. Basically I used the stock control box to control the mirror functions ex up down lf rt. Then I used two relay boxes to reverse the polarity of the pos and neg for the retract. I also used a power window switch for the control of the mirror functions... wish it could of been different but this will work until I can locate a stock relay for the mirrors... that and my JDM control switch isnt in the greatest condition nemore. bascially what happense is when I push down on the switch the mirror fold in.. and when I push up on the switch the mirrors fold out. what happens is the wires coming out of the relays switch back and forth between pos and neg. I had to use all four of the retract pins on the mirror harness... what I did was ran the two lines off of the relays into two of the pins and then had to jump them to the other two pins for the retact on the other side of the harness.... you have to cross the wires to ex: if you look at the mirror harness and look at the outer pins there are a total of 4 pins.. two on each side that are vertical. you need to plug both wires from the relays into these and then jump both of em to the other side... but you have to make the wires cross instead of going straight across.. this might be confusing I kknow.. will lay it out clearly for you guys sometime either late tonight or tomorrow sometime... you will know real quick if you have got em wrong cuz it will make the power blink off in your car  -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 12:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
you used relays ? nice. I hope that link I posted helped in some way. I will have mine and wired in about a week
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Nov 5, 2004 - 12:20 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
your an ass never.......how you do that then not give a CLEAR EXPLANATION you only talk in neverstop speak DAMN YOU
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Nov 5, 2004 - 1:22 AM
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 Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
ok,who has 5th gen mirrors and who has 6th gens.
I have 6th gens. Dan has 5th gens ti has 6th gens Neverstop ?? Batman has 6th gens Dont want everyone confused on wire color anymore or pin location --------------------  I will return one day. |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 2:03 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
ah see thats why its different i HAVE 5TH gen mirrors
damn it.....looks like i have to find a 5th gen board and check around |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 5:33 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
To splice the wires in I used these little things  I don't know if you have these over there. You don't have to cut or strip the wires, you just lay the wire in and close it up with a pair of pliers.  This is the best photo I've got of the new wiring. How did I run the retract wires up to the mirror? The new mirrors already have the wires for the retractor motors. I added wires in mine to supply the heated glass and I explained how I did that on the How 2 page. |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 11:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well that explains alot. I also figured mine out. My JDM relay is an acting polarity changer. My pink wire goes to the relay, from there I have the blue and green (retractor + and - ). So when I push my button, it sends the signal to my relay and thus changes polarity. I dont think it'll be hard at all now, thanks to the USDM loom break down Silver GT gave us. What I'll do when I get back (monday) is check my stock relay to see if they are the same unit. My JDM mirrors/relay/control unit came off a 97 and I have a 97. So if they are the same, I'll tell you which pin the pink (or whatever color) goes to and which pins the green and blue come off of. This way we can all have the JDM control unit working in our cars.  -Ti |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 3:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
mine are 6gc ones
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Nov 5, 2004 - 6:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
curse you all wtf am i supposed to do
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Nov 5, 2004 - 7:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Take them apart and have a look at the motors. Toyota may have used the same ones and you may be able to build them into your existing mirrors. |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 9:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
  
-------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 9:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
nice. Relays are fun and easy
EDIT: playr158, just put the motors in your mirrors. Then just wire the motors to work. With the 2 links posted - http://www.yellowsun.plus.com/how2/retractmirror.html and http://www.radcastro.com/Projects/Project+ST2GT4/580.aspx you should be able to mount the motor your existing housing and then just wire them in. This post has been edited by Batman722: Nov 5, 2004 - 10:01 PM -------------------- |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 11:09 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
 the blue arrow is the main gear.. I had to redo the glue inside cuz the driver side mirror was loose and it would spin out too far and not let the mirror move back out. the red arrow is pointin at the powerthingy for the motor.. I had to reset the motor a few times when I was figurin out everything.. unhookin that and then pluggin it back in seems to be the way to do it 
This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Nov 5, 2004 - 11:11 PM -------------------- 99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 11:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
after doing some research I have a question for SliverGT
looking at the UK how 2 on http://www.yellowsun.plus.com/how2/retractmirror.html The old and new wire colours for the control units are the same so you just join colour to colour Control unit Power = GY Chassis = W/BK Common feed = LG/R Right Vert. = LG/BK Right Hori. = LG Left Vert. = BR/Y Left Hori. = BR/W Retractor + = R/Y Retractor - = BL/W and looking at your USDM loom colors The corresponding USDM loom colors 1 - retractor motor 2 - retractor motor 3 - spare 4 - left vertical adjuster - BR/Y 5 - chassis - W/BK 6 - power +12v - GY 7 - right horizontal adjuster - LGR 8 - right vertical adjuster - LGR/BK 9 - common feed to adjusters - LGR/R 10 - left horizontal adjuster - BR/W 2 wires don't match up - the RH and the common feed are switched. Just a mistake ? Are you sure the USDM / UK / JDM control unit wires all match up ? or are they different with the USDM (2 wires) ? EDIT : also, the + and - from the mirrors just go directly to the + and - of the control unit ? This post has been edited by Batman722: Nov 5, 2004 - 11:21 PM -------------------- |
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Nov 5, 2004 - 11:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
After more research, NEVER, that is some funky riggin
question : you still have them hooked to your window switch, right ? So, you could hook that setup to an external 3 way switch in the dash and keep your stock (USDM) mirror switch, right ?
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Nov 6, 2004 - 12:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
um if I read that right YES I just ran and external switch completly independent of the JDM control switch.. in fact once all the wires are completly ran and everything is tucked away nicely the only thing that will be JDM is the mirrors them selves and the harness that is with the mirrors... I will wire everything up so the harness that pluges into the female side of the mirror will be wired into the Door harness Right now theres just a buncha wires inside the car to make everything work.. I am waint for the adhesive to dry completely before I hook both mirrors up at the same time but I have gotten each to work by themselves.. just did the driver side with it all taken apart and the pass fully assembled. I see no reason why this setup shouldnt work and is a quick easy fix for those that didnt get the stock relay. also think until we get the actual wiring all figured out this would be the route to go
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Nov 6, 2004 - 12:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
can someone explain what i have to do with these damned 5th gen mirrors??????
swap all the motors into my stock mirrors? how would i wire? switch? keep the stocker? |
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