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post Oct 15, 2004 - 9:32 AM
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Alrighty, so I've searched and found nothing. I am doing a basic head swap, replacing the 5sfe on my celica with a rebuilt 5sfe because the valve seals are toast. I have the head, and will check the seals and valve lash. I have the BGB for the car.
All I basically need to know from the experts (I've only ever done a swap on a Honda), is what parts I need (do I need new tensioners, etc), I'd imagine I'll do the water pump and timing belt, so what all do I need, and where's a good place online to get it.

So far
Head Gasket - Want a decent one
intake & Exhaust manifold gaskets.
Timing belt - any better than the others ?
water pump
t-stat (low temp because I don't drive it in the winter)

So, some help as to what else and what specific parts, as well as where you buy your toyota stuff online would help!

THANKS!

Dr.
post Oct 15, 2004 - 12:59 PM
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well, for starters, you can use the headgasket off of a 98+ camry, it is of metal composite and will be much more durable, which will really come in handy if you decide to run a forced induction setup, or if you plan to drive the car for another 200 thousand miles. Also trd makes a low temp thermostat, I dunno, check ebay. As for the other parts, I wouldn't worry too much about a particular timing belt or manifold gaskets, but I could be wrong


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post Oct 15, 2004 - 10:24 PM
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Yeah, I heard about those HG's, I'm gonna get me one of those.

No one here done this or know anything ? Come on now.

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post Oct 16, 2004 - 2:37 AM
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Here is off of the top of my head:
fuel injector o-ring kits
2 crushed gaskets for exhaust
two small water bypass hoses that are under a heat shiel under the exhaust mani
valve cover gasket
little grommets in the spark plug wells
cam seal
gasket that should come with thermostat but mine didn't frown.gif
throttle body gasket
egr gasket
two tensioners for timing belt
2 crushed washers for either end of banjo bolt on fuel rail
that's all I can think of right now. I bought all of my stuff from olympic becuase my friend has a wholesale account. What ever they did not have I bought from toyota.

Before you put the head on check the shims
Make sure whoever installed the cams put the subgear back on correctly and there is torque in the torsion spring
run a chaser through the plug wells, I had to do it with mine on becuase some asshole tightened the spark plugs too much
Check the mounts when you have them out (all but the tranny I think), had that come back and bite me on a vw

That should be it. The head didn't give me any problems except for the stripped plug thread.
post Oct 16, 2004 - 7:23 AM
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^ what he said.

Any toyota 5sfe HG is now metal. While your in there might as well get arp head studs also. Good luck with the swap, should take 6-7 hours-ish depending on the condition on some bolts. Def fallow the BGB on every step.

This post has been edited by 1bwilson: Oct 16, 2004 - 7:23 AM


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post Oct 16, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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alright, I'll make sure it's a metal one.

I was hoping to do it in 5, but 8 ir more realistic. The swap on my crx took weeks, but thats only because I haden't done one before.

I don't like that the cams need to be re-installed, but I'll make sure the shims and such are all good. BGB should explain it well.

That sounds like everything, any other hints for me?

Dr.
post Oct 17, 2004 - 5:08 AM
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Timming covers are a bish. Make ssure you get all the leftover metal from the origional HG off of the block. I used a soft metal brush bit on my dremmel to do this. If you do make sure all the water jackets are covered. Oh and the head bolts DO fit down the oil return holes ;D so watch out for them. When you start the swap revive this post and those of us that can will try and answer any other questions. Good luck.


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post Oct 17, 2004 - 7:42 PM
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I'd repost when I do it, but it won't be for months, i'm doing all the prep now because it goes away for winter soon.

Yeah, taking all the old HG off isn't fun, I found that out on my Honda

Where does everyone gets their parts ? Online ? At a dealership ?

Dr.
post Oct 18, 2004 - 5:13 AM
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QUOTE (drnovascotia @ Oct 17, 2004 - 5:42 PM)
I'd repost when I do it, but it won't be for months, i'm doing all the prep now because it goes away for winter soon.

Yeah, taking all the old HG off isn't fun, I found that out on my Honda

Where does everyone gets their parts ? Online ? At a dealership ?

Dr.

Between now and then try and make friends with you local dealership. I went there so many times during my HG swap they now give me the same discount they get.


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