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Just to interrupt on your buddy Josh, Kwanza. He's the nicest business man I've ever dealt with. He (well Chico) shipped me the wrong tranny by mistake 2 months ago and I only got to messing with it recently and noticed woops, no LSD, so I contacted him and he had absolutely no problem in swapping it ASAP with no charge to me. Just thought I'd share that in case anyone is looking to deal with them since I noticed your kinda promoting him too lol.
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Nov 9, 2004 - 8:54 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I can't remember who said that they use to soley believe in the 3sgte (becaues i'm on the forth page), haha, but kwanza may remember my post, i've always not blieved in the 3s-gte. I plan on the 5s-fze, and somewhere in the plan, always waving goodbye to swapped 3's. I've always believe in my 5s
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Nov 9, 2004 - 10:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Uh...3SGTE isnt a belief or idea you can believe in. The 3sgte is just plainly capable of more power at safer conditions. The 5sfe has plenty of power capability but IDK but it cannot take the abuse I think alot of ppl are going to put it through. The 5sfe was not meant for boost so boosting it requires TLC. The 3s can sustain a little bit of a beating. IMO some people dont accept the responsibility of having a turbo engine and thus dont kno how to properly treat one.
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Nov 9, 2004 - 10:24 AM
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AMEN! and the cost levels for a swap are not as high as people make them out to be. my clip was 2,500 shipped to my door. so, in theory it can be done for that much, then i spent another 1,500 for tuneup stuff, IC pipes, fmic, gauges, bov, and other toys. then i sold some stuff to from my clip and made about 1,200$ of that back. so, really the cost isint that high when u total it up...but like i said, you have to pay to play! if you are going to do a 5sfTE, do it right, spend lots of money and make sure its as realiable as a factory built engine.... same thing with the 3s, do all the proper tune up stuff to it before u put it in..... dont make a decision of one over the other based on cost. at least with the 3s you are getting their design and reasearch that when into making the 3sgte realiable. This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 9, 2004 - 10:33 AM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Nov 9, 2004 - 10:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
i dont think any sort of modification will have the engine or swap as reliable as stock, thats just the price you pay for doing this kinda stuff.
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Nov 9, 2004 - 12:59 PM
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thought some of youmight like this if you havent seen it already.
http://www.trdnw.com/cat_turbo_reviews_1.html |
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Nov 9, 2004 - 1:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '04 From antioch CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
gotta read this is for the 5sfe
Initial dyno tests showed the 7psi kit on the Camry produced 162.4 hp at the wheels, a gain over stock of about 60 hp. The first quarter mile run was 14.93 sec @ 93.36 mph. Later upgrades produced quarter mile times in the 14.25 range @ 99.98 mph. The upgraded turbo system now in the Camry produced 253.7 hp at the wheels and we have yet to run a quarter mile with the prototype since the additional injector was added and the head was flowed. Figuring a 20% loss at the wheels the 7psi kit should produce about 203hp at the crank and the prototype Camry is probably producing slightly in excess of 300 crank hp. http://www.trdnw.com/cat_turbo_performance.html |
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Nov 9, 2004 - 1:50 PM
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I wonder if it has an air conditioner, or interior for that matter...
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Nov 9, 2004 - 2:07 PM
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my dad wont let me gett rid of my ac. i already stripped the subs out. and sum random heavy stuff.  i went to a 1/4 mile calculator site. and it says if i get my car down to 2600lbs with my hp i can run about a 13.7 so thats cool. but its only an estimate i know. but its sumthing to work towards.
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Nov 9, 2004 - 2:18 PM
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well, the thing is, he actually did have a 3s-gte, I saw it in his garage when I went ot go pick up my leather seats from him -------------------- [img]http://photos-081.facebook.com/n6/081/n15913038_30266081_3342.jpg[/img]
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Nov 9, 2004 - 3:29 PM
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I've lost a lot of respect for you NEVERSTOP. You need to control the way you conduct yourself. It may not matter what some people on some forum might think, but I hope you don't blow up like this in real life. You didn't do a very good job of making a point you, you just made an ass outta urself.
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92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Nov 9, 2004 - 4:42 PM
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I don't understand how NEVERSTOP made an ass out of himself. How else would he handle being accused of not doing the things he has done to his car? Being only 15 minutes away from him, and the owner of his 3SGTE, I can understand how he would be upset. He has every reason to defend his name and his work done to his 94 project.
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Nov 9, 2004 - 5:10 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
everyone is slingen mud now.
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Nov 9, 2004 - 5:12 PM
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im sorry..... i jsut posted up some numbers
 yes the 3sgte is better. duhhhhh. but im poor.
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If your referring to personal attack on lagos.. DUDE I have held my tongue for a long time concerning him... I'm gonna leave it at that. re read my posts then think about what I said and order I said it in. wanst till he started with sarcastic comments that I went to that level.. and it was something I felt needed to be said for a while now... have even discuss with other members prior to my posting... The only point I tried to make the whole time was this:
That was all I had orginally intended to post... and following posts where while arguing my side still friendly.. even to a member I personally can not stand.. If I made an ass outta myself... eh.. ohwell nobodys perfect BTW thanks YODA --------------------  99 project version 3.0.. hello SEMA 2010 =) |
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Nov 9, 2004 - 7:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It's not that you replied, thats fine, it's the way you did.
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92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Nov 9, 2004 - 9:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From Rhode Island Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
i wanan swap in a supra engine... that will pwn both those engines
.neither engine is better. its all about what you want to gain, and ur funding. 5sfte is way better than 3sgte in certain aspects. and in other aspects the 3sgte is way better. pls stop this bickering. dont make me swap a supra engine in. ill have to whoop all u guys.(in a race) o yeah and neverstop... ur car kicks ass
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Nov 9, 2004 - 10:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hold on apes, what kinda race
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Nov 9, 2004 - 11:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
NEVERSTOP, everyone has a different way of looking at things. you may read something i say, and take it one way, and someone else will read it and take it another way. its just the way the internet is.
my personal OPINION (not fact, just the way i take the things u type) of you has alway been of a guy who dosnt tell the truth about his past car projects, but you never see me try to disrespect you about it or try to pick a fight. i agree with SlowCelica94 that your comments were out of line. this is after all a msg board, everyone can state their opinion (about the topic posted) and debate it till the cows come home. so, dont give me crap for trying to debate my side of this topic. Yota, if you scroll up and read all the posts again, youll see that i only said something about his past projects as a reply to the attacks he made at me in the previous thread. i wasnt the one who started the presonal attacks. This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 9, 2004 - 11:44 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Nov 10, 2004 - 12:54 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 22, '04 From kitchener,Ontario Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think the 5sfe is a great start but if your like me and craving the real power you got the wrong engine to come out and play!Like you guys are saying changing the internals the tuning and dyno the car and see were you can improve the curvs, the truth of it is you are using a mk3 supra turbo thats good at the end of the gears (builds boost late)the 3sgte ct26 kicks in very early in the power band and rpms.So you have now figured what you did wrong just by changing the turbo!Now it spools up quicker and the tourque down low will break your enternals if you dont build the motor from the inside out.Now my question is why go with a turbo on your 5sfe motor if you dont want to be able to run some serious boost ?Kwanza 10 psi is equivalent to 100 hp in theory!A 3sgte is that already on motor, more than a stock 5sfe!If I want to add 100hp i crank up my boost up 10 psi and its still more power and its safer.Now you guy talk about compression the 5sfe is a higher than the 3sgte so you get a new intake manifold with longer runners and there you have raised the compression and the motor is still faster and more safe.I think its cool that someone is doing a NA and turboing it but as far as I concerned I want huge power from my car.And I go all out or why do we even bother spending money on our cars.GO BIG OR GO HOME!!
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