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post Nov 30, 2004 - 11:33 PM
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I know this has been posted before, but it's been awile and I was just wondering if there was any new news or someone that didnt' get a chance to coment last time that might have some info. I have a 94 GT with a 5s-fe and I'd like a 6 speed. Please try to keep info about ST to a min, I think every one knows the 7th gen 6 speeds bolts up to it.


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post Dec 1, 2004 - 12:01 AM
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well i'm a big beliver in custom built trannies cause i have see what they could do for an underpowered car... .. if you really want one and have the cash... a good tranny shop can do this for you.. all they will need is your bellhousing and rebuil rebuild your internals with a new 6th gear...


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post Dec 1, 2004 - 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 1, 2004 - 4:33 AM)
I know this has been posted before, but it's been awile and I was just wondering if there was any new news or someone that didnt' get a chance to coment last time that might have some info.  I have a 94 GT with a 5s-fe and I'd like a 6 speed.  Please try to keep info about ST to a min, I think every one knows the 7th gen 6 speeds bolts up to it.
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The 7th gen tranny does NOT bolt up to the 7AFE... but the guts can be transplanted into a C52 box...

As for the GT... no 6 speed transaxles but there are 6 speed RWD trannies...


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post Dec 1, 2004 - 3:26 AM
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QUOTE(macavely @ Dec 1, 2004 - 5:01 AM)
well i'm a big beliver in custom built trannies cause i have see what they could do for an underpowered car... .. if you really want one and have the cash... a good tranny shop can do this for you.. all they will need is your bellhousing and rebuil rebuild your internals with a new 6th gear...
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And how much would that cost aproxamately?
post Dec 1, 2004 - 3:30 AM
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QUOTE(CheesyLobster @ Dec 1, 2004 - 3:26 AM)
QUOTE(macavely @ Dec 1, 2004 - 5:01 AM)
well i'm a big beliver in custom built trannies cause i have see what they could do for an underpowered car... .. if you really want one and have the cash... a good tranny shop can do this for you.. all they will need is your bellhousing and rebuil rebuild your internals with a new 6th gear...
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And how much would that cost aproxamately?
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i seen them go anywhere from 500$ t0 20,000$ ...


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post Dec 1, 2004 - 1:02 PM
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There's no bolt ups what so ever hu? Man, I wish there was...I'm sure there's alot that wish that. I guess a 5speed will due for now, I'll spend the money on more power instead. Hro Hro Hro


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Dec 1, 2004 - 10:02 AM)
There's no bolt ups what so ever hu?  Man, I wish there was...I'm sure there's alot that wish that.  I guess a 5speed will due for now, I'll spend the money on more power instead. Hro Hro Hro
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the ST's have an option of a 6spd tranny. came with some 4age engine. not sure on the details.


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 6:08 PM
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QUOTE(97sccelica @ Dec 2, 2004 - 5:03 AM)
the ST's have an option of a 6spd tranny.  came with some 4age engine.  not sure on the details.
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AE111 Levins (20V blacktop) and a few other models came with the C56 6 speed tranny which is pretty much a bolt-on. Probably other things are needed also... but he doesn't care about what ST's have remember... ;]


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 6:10 PM
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I thought it was called the C60 or something. Isn't the C56 just a C52 with closer gear ratios? Because I know some later model AE101 4A-GEs came with the C56.


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 6:16 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 2, 2004 - 11:10 PM)
I thought it was called the C60 or something. Isn't the C56 just a C52 with closer gear ratios? Because I know some later model AE101 4A-GEs came with the C56.
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I dunno... I thought I was the C56... actually... I'm pretty sure it's the C56. Let me think about that for a sec. I've seen a few 6 speed boxes being sold as C56... hmm... I'll get back on this one.


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 6:29 PM
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After some research on ToyMods, it looks like they refer to the six speed from the AE111 as the C60. And the pre-update AE101 4A-GE's were mated to the C52(which is what I have in my car I think(I have the pre-update AE101 4A-GE, but my gear ratios are different than my stock 7A-FE C52, so I'm not sure.), and the post-update AE101 4A-GE's(and AE111 5-speeds) got the C56. wink.gif

And both the C56 and C60 are available with LSD.


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 6:34 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 2, 2004 - 11:16 PM)
QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 2, 2004 - 11:10 PM)
I thought it was called the C60 or something. Isn't the C56 just a C52 with closer gear ratios? Because I know some later model AE101 4A-GEs came with the C56.
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I dunno... I thought I was the C56... actually... I'm pretty sure it's the C56. Let me think about that for a sec. I've seen a few 6 speed boxes being sold as C56... hmm... I'll get back on this one.
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Hehe... Ok... some confirmation. I had to call my engine guys and check it out just to be sure.

The AE111 6 speed is the C60. Coomer is right... =D I always thought the 6 speed was the C56 because all of the AE111 blacktops I've seen had those, or so-called C56 trannies. The 6 speed was an option for the AE111 Levin... with the C56 as standard. There was also the C160 which was an LSD 6 speed which was also available as an option.

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post Dec 2, 2004 - 6:35 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 2, 2004 - 11:29 PM)
After some research on ToyMods, it looks like they refer to the six speed from the AE111 as the C60. And the pre-update AE101 4A-GE's were mated to the C52(which is what I have in my car I think(I have the pre-update AE101 4A-GE, but my gear ratios are different than my stock 7A-FE C52, so I'm not sure.), and the post-update AE101 4A-GE's(and AE111 5-speeds) got the C56. wink.gif

And both the C56 and C60 are available with LSD.
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I was just about to confirm that... =P


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post Dec 2, 2004 - 9:37 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 2, 2004 - 3:35 PM)
QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 2, 2004 - 11:29 PM)
After some research on ToyMods, it looks like they refer to the six speed from the AE111 as the C60. And the pre-update AE101 4A-GE's were mated to the C52(which is what I have in my car I think(I have the pre-update AE101 4A-GE, but my gear ratios are different than my stock 7A-FE C52, so I'm not sure.), and the post-update AE101 4A-GE's(and AE111 5-speeds) got the C56. wink.gif

And both the C56 and C60 are available with LSD.
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I was just about to confirm that... =P
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heh, i thought he didnt care about ST trannies? wink.gif


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post Dec 3, 2004 - 6:25 PM
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Yeah, I didn't really. There's another hole forum page on the ST trannies, but updates never hurt anyone I guess. I'm never going to a 4a-ge, and I'm diffinately not going to a 7a-fe. More than likely I'll keep the 5s-fe till I trade her on a new car, but if I don't I'm going for a 3s-gte. There's just so many other cars out there that are better sutted for me. I love my celica, but she just hasn't got a racing heart in her. Even with a 3s-gte, I'd have to go front wheel drive. And besides that, it's to heavy and there's not enough parts for them. And, it's a little to pretty for me. I like a good ugly, fast, tough car.


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post Dec 3, 2004 - 7:49 PM
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HKS makes a 6 speed fwd tranny for the curren (3s-ge). they are very, very expensive as it's a racing gearbox but if your interested here's the site:
i believe it's at takakaira.com which is a japanese site in english.


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