conversion help..., need parts!!! Options

[playr158]

yea dude when you start(from engine swap to finish the whole conversion) TAKE PICTURES OF EVERYTHING and WRITE DOWN how you did it

[pimpstarr690]

No worries...when I start the conversion I'll be taking ALOT of pictures. Im gonna put together a portfoilio for a future refrence. I'll let you know when the conversion starts....

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96 Celica Convertable

[SlowCelica94]

For drift? Oh jesus......just got buy an s13 and save the celica from being associated with that horrible fad

[playr158]

WTF are you talking about a terrible FAD.....ummm
its defenitly a MOTOR SPORT here to stay, you can't say
that drift is rice and requires nothing
its probably one of the most challeging forms of racing....
besides rally and maybe 1 other....

s13? ummmm try s15 more ideal for drift

[pimpstarr690]

See that's the thing...you dont see any Celica's competing for Drift. So that's why I wanna set the car up for Drift. That'll be the day to see a vert celica drifting...lol gotta love it.

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96 Celica Convertable

[playr158]

dude we have the same asperations....i wanna drift my hatch

[Kwanza26]

WTF are you talking about a terrible FAD.....ummm
its defenitly a MOTOR SPORT here to stay, you can't say
that drift is rice and requires nothing
its probably one of the most challeging forms of racing....
besides rally and maybe 1 other....

s13? ummmm try s15 more ideal for drift
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It's challenging... yes... but it's a fad when people who can't/shouldn't do it... try to do it. All ends up with a messy spill. Drift drivers are the most highly trained drivers and not just "anybody" can do it. That's what makes it a fad. People try to drift when they're ill-equipped to do it. It's a motorsport if you go out to open track days and get a feel for the car and how it reacts in grip-loss situations, then you go to drift days and hone skills... but it's a fad when people simply buy a 240 or something and call burnouts "drifting"... Also, drifting is to racing as figure skating is to speed skating...

Same goes with street racing. Simply a fad because trained drivers and grease monkies who know what they're doing will wipe the floor with the band-wagoneers...

[pimpstarr690]

Yes Drifting is a challenging sport but those D1 competitors just didn't wake up one morning and go "oh Im gonna go compete in D1 today" and does like the best drifting ever...We all know it takes practice...just as like everything else. It's either you love it or you hate it or your just messed up..lol But me and my friends drift (not burnouts) on these mean streets of Strongsville Ohio (worst place to live). Were all not even using 240's either. Were talkin' FD,Supra,Celica's.

My main purpose in doing all of this is because it's something that you really haven't seen before...I hate all that negativity b/s (I've gotten that pretty much all my life) and I just want to do something that I can say that I did. Im just gonna finally make my dream become a reality and everyone here will join me along the ride...


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96 Celica Convertable
~3s and AWD coming soon

[playr158]

word i can feel that, negativity my whole life also but HA now i have a hotter car then anyone ever at my HS ever had....f them alll its all about you and your mind! rock it out dude and i'm behind this mod 100%

[trdevelopment]

im just wondering if the alltrack 3sfe camery would work for a celi rear end. theres this shop by my house whose got one in the parking lot and the owner wants to sell it for liek 300$ for the whole car hes got the keys and and stuff... he said the guy who had it last never came back for it so i dont know it would be a abandon title if one would buy it off him.(im not doing the awd swap so dont flame me lol just a little pointer for you guys)

This post has been edited by trdevelopment: Dec 12, 2004 - 4:17 PM

[Kwanza26]

im just wondering if the alltrack 3sfe camery would work for a celi rear end. theres this shop by my house whose got one in the parking lot and the owner wants to sell it for liek 300$ for the whole car hes got the keys and and stuff... he said the guy who had it last never came back for it so i dont know it would be a abandon title if one would buy it off him.(im not doing the awd swap so dont flame me lol just a little pointer for you guys)
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Depends on the rear set-up. If it's a solid rear, it will probably not work because of the stroke room needed for the entire rear housing.

[FallenHero]

sell the celica and fix up the camry. WAY cooler with the sleeper factor.

ALSO!!!! Not just any rear will work. The RATIO between the front drive axle and rear must be set up properly or the car won't make it out of the garage.

This is hard to do. If they are different even just slightly you can wipe your tranny off. It'll be spitting up parts left and right. Buy the Camry and use the tranny and rear set up. Hell, that would impress me.

[pimpstarr690]

Mr.E I still haven't gotten a responce from the guy you told me that could have the stuff I need....Are you a friend to him? I guess Ill try to E-mail him again....hopefully this time he'll reply

[thedevilmaycrie]

hey pimp... i drift my ae86 and if your plannin on drifting the celica your going in the wrong direction... im not flaming you but there are things to consider... i know i was gonna do the same to my celica... first and formost the celica gt4 was awd which means that the power is split in 4 directons(100 divided by 4) which make only 50% power to rear, the only rear that has a lsd was the st205, the gear ratio for the st185 and st205 ARE different so you have to use the gt4 tranny as well(which is a lil stronger then the st185), imo as much as i hate it as a celica owner... is take the 3sgte with the 3sge altezza transmisson using the st205 rear end and make that biatch rwd only... honestly thats the best way to do it... please remeber in not flaming on you just after all research i found that out... if you have any question please pm me and ill help as much as i can...

-DMC

[pimpstarr690]

thedevilmaycrie, I understand your concern but Isn't there AWD controllers? That set's how much power goes to where...I REALLY wanna do this conversion....in fact soo bad that it's becoming a pain on why I haven't started this...I dunno...Just a thought? What's the estimated time to do the 3s swap?

[thedevilmaycrie]

yes there are awd controller... but there only for electric awd cars (ie. skylines) the awdrivetrain of the gt4 is all mechanical...

-DMC

[playr158]

yes but he can still do it, can't you custom do the gearing in the trany and such to transfer 40-60?

[thedevilmaycrie]

no... not that i know of... the skylines gtr drive system is not full time awd the system is set up so that on take off it is about 40 front - 60 rear... during normal driving the rear takes over completely until slipage occures (ie wet weather, or sliding) then the front engages to pull the car out of it... even if you set it up to awd to drift it, it still will be awd and if you think your gonna place in the top 14 in a D-1 driver search with a awd then im sorry to inform you that the odds of that are minimal... and if you take the front half shafts out for drifting then you still have the balance issues... if you REALLY want to drift the celica then your best bet is to convert it to rwd only... that means turning the engine to accomidate this... sry

-DMC

[pimpstarr690]

Well Im not gonna try to compete in D1. I know I couldn't prolly make it that far....I mainly wanted it for street use. I dont know..... =/

[thedevilmaycrie]

well dude i compete in D-1 driver searches... the only way to make it that far is by practicing and going to drift meets to get your lines down right... personally i would love to see a celica on D-1 America... but who knows if ill ever see that... i dont have the money to even try to do this =/ but ohh well ill stick to my hachi... as for you conversion if your using it for street then go awd... you'll mop the floor with there a$$... but if you wanna be able to really compete the rwd conversion...

-DMC