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> 3S-GTE vs modded 5S, just thinking
post Mar 31, 2003 - 6:02 PM
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QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 12:47 PM)
i do have a turbo. but there is no way that i would try to get 300hp out of it. i run like 8 or 9 psi. what the hell does that have to do with anything anyway?

oh, sorry, I was just trying to be funny. Its hard to type things that are verbally funny onto the computer. It was supposed to be sarcasm. Later.
post Mar 31, 2003 - 9:28 PM
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QUOTE (igotta5S-FEturbo @ Mar 30, 2003 - 11:30 AM)
sigh

you can not raise boost pressure by just getting a thicker head gasket.

You talk about compression. Compression in the 5s-fe, I believe, is around 10.5 or so. So that would make it even more unstable when running boost. With the 3sgte you can get the one from an st185 and all those parts are readily available in the u.s. That engine has just as much potential as the one from the st205.

And buying internal parts are a hell of a hot easier to get a hold of than parts for the 5s-fe. With that engine you would more than likely have to get some custom work done. Which is expensive.

So if anybody does turbo their 5s-fe trying to reach 300hp or w/e PM me because I have another 5s-fe for sale.

actually what i meant by a thicker head gasket was that it lowers the CR. thus making it a little more stable when making boost. i know that a thicker head gasket wont make more boost.


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post Apr 1, 2003 - 11:35 PM
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The 3S-GTE 3rd gen has 255hp that is where the number came from.

Silver,
swapping the 3S head has its advantages.
the 5S-FE, as stated is a economical engine. it has a 22 degree angle on the manifold making it so.
the 3S-GE has a larger angle, more adapt for racing. It allowed greater flow and all.

The arguement over swapping the head is the cost.
Apparently to do the head swap is supposed to cost as much as just swapping the engine. i know this sounds really off. but there's more to it that i don't remember ?

Also, the head doesn't just snap on, so to say. there has to be some minor changes due to the extra .2L in the 5S


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post Apr 3, 2003 - 2:28 AM
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This is a very stupid post. A modded 5s-fe(I'm talking 3" exhaust with custom 3" downpiping, big front mount intercooler, running more boost than the 6 psi that comes with the burien kit) till won't beat the 3sgte in the quarter mile. It may put you in the low 14's. The 3sgte swap into a 6th gen will run in the high 13's. I'll get back with you this saturday when Iget back from the track. the 5sfe was not meant to be highly boosted.
post Apr 3, 2003 - 2:59 AM
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End of the summer we'll see what the 5s can do. I am in the process of putting together the DIY 5sfe turbo kit using 3sgte parts. I am also going to be strengthining the bottom end (if not rebuilding completely) and running a MSD ignition with timing control. If I up to it I might throw in a 35 shot also but I'm not to keen about using the gas (had a friend that blew his hood clear off). My biggest worrie is if the tranny will hold up or not.

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post Apr 4, 2003 - 1:03 AM
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Your drive shafts will go first. Think of them as little expensive fuses to keep you from messing up your transmition.

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